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We appreciate the good work being done by Dr Mehrotra through this site. It would be helpful if the grievances being projected by the civilians and PMF is projected by you to the committee headed by Pranab Mukherjee to look in to the anomalies of 6CPC with respect to Defence forces so that our point of view is also considered regarding equivalence of LT Cols and Deputy Secretaries
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Arun Ramanathan is not going to World Bank
This is now almost certain that Arun Ramanthan is not going to the World Bank as ED.1973 batch Tamil Nadu cadre IAS officer Arun Ramanthan is going to continue as Secretary Finance and Financial Services.
Who will go to World Bank ?
Who will succeed Dhanendra Kumar on November 1 as ED World Bank ?. Latest information says that either Deputy RBI Governor Rakesh Mohan or Secretary Power Anil Razdan will go to Washington.
Anurag Goyal to be Member of Competition Commission !
Secretary Corporate Affairs Anurag Goyal is being tipped to be Member of the Competition Commission. He is 1972 batch IAS officer of Uttar Pradesh cadre.
Shyam Agrawal to be JS Commerce ?
Additional DG Foreign Trade Shyam Agrawal is being tipped to be Joint Secretary Commerce. He is 1980 batch IAS officer of Rajasthan cadre.
Deputation in GOI for IAS officers of 1987 & 88 batch easy
There is no likelihood of scramble for central deputation among IAS officers belonging to batches of 1987 & 1988. Reason for this is that there are lesser of IAS officers from either batches who have opted for central deputation.
Alok Sheel is JS Economic Affairs
Alok Sheel has joined the Government of India as Joint Secretary Economic Affairs. He is 1982 batch IAS officer of Kerala cadre.
Gupta joins as CVO of KRIBHCO
A K Gupta has joined as CVO of the KRIBHCO. He is 1979 batch IAS officer of Uttar Pradesh cadre.
Shiv Basant is back to Jharkhand
Shiv Basant is back to the parent Jharkhand cadre from central deputation. He is 1976 batch IAS officer.
118 Asst Commissioners (IT) promoted
The Revenue department promoted 118 IRS officers of the rank of Assistant Commissioners Income Tax as Deputy Commissioners in the unrevised scales. Those promoted include Messrs Panikkar NV, Shanti Kumar Jain, RK Sharma, Umesh Chandra Dubey, Partha Dam Kanuja, Sat Paul, GN Makwana, CW Angolkar, Prakash N Borde, NP Patel, James Kurian, Pradeep Kumar Majumdar, Amitava Bhattacharyya, Rakesh Kumar Das, Guru Bhan Shyam, Rajendra Jha, Mrinal Kanti Biswas, AV Prasad Rao, Swaran Singh Sampla, Suresh R Kirtane, PR Mane, Gaya Prasad, NS Hattimare, VS Chakrapani, Andiappan, AB Kohli, KC Kanojia, HB Nanawe, R.M. Rajwane, Anju Sherpe, N. Murmu, Shridhar Bhattacharya, Shyamal Dutta, A.J. Vaz, T.R. Sekhar Naidu, Jaishri Sharma, Zeenia Handa, R.Seetharamna, Manu Tentiwal, V.C.Devika Rani, Bare Ganesh Sudhakar, Chander Shekhar Gulati, Rohit Sharma, Sapna Bhatia, C.P.Jainarayanan, Pradeep Karanth, GC Virk, Rinku Singh, RK Snarda, Anita Rupayataram, Satish Kumar, KM Mahesh, LS Sapra, Prashant Kumar Jha, Adarsh Kumar Taneja, Monica Sharma, Chandip Singh, Shivraj Deshmukh, Vimal Anand, BJ Vyas, LV Bhaskara Reddy, Anjula Jain, Chandra Sekhar, Krishna Gopal Goel, C Chanara Sekhar, Subooru Hasan Usmani, S Chandrasekharan, Anil Kumar Bhardwaj, Vivek Anand Ojha, Shailendra Sharma, Nikita Bansal, Ranu Mukherjee, Soumya Achar HL, C Kanda Sami, Soigy Jose, T Kottaram, N Madhawan, Chandra Vijay, Vivek Sharma, Ranu Biswas, N Senthil Kumar, Sanjay Kumar, VM Ravi Venkatesh, Pushpendra Singh Choudhary, Grace Thomas, Vivek Verma, VVR Nageshwar Dutt, Alok Kumar, Rakesh tripathi, Anil Kumar Sharma, Rakesh Ranjan, Pankaj Kumar, Kanhaiyalal Kanak, Sarmala Ganesh, AN Mishra, T Sankar, A Krishnamurthy, Manoj Kumar, AV Sriniwasa Rao, Sunku Sriniwasu, M Sithram, Prashant VK, Rajesh Kumar, K Narasimhan, S Suresh, Arvind Kumar, Manda Narmada, CP Singh, Alka Gautam, BK Jain, Soman Choubey, HS Lal, Easter Ninghauvung Hanghal, Umesh Pathak, Prithviraj Meena, Himanshu Kumar Pandey, Satvir Singh and Om Prakash Meena.
Bhal is new Spokesman of CBI
Harsh Bhal, a 1983 batch Indian Information Service Officer, has taken over as spokesperson of the Central Bureau of Investigation on Tuesday. Until now Bhal has been working as Additional DG (Admn) and spokesperson for the Ministry of Human Resources Department at the Press Information Bureau.
( We said this on September 25 )
Garima Gupta not going to Goa
2004 batch UT cadre IAS officer Ms Garima Gupta is not joining the Goa Government. Her new posting is yet to be made.
Tandon to be PCCF in Himachal Pradesh
Vinay Tandon is being tipped to be new PCCF in Himachal Pradesh. The post is falling vacant next month.
Raj Thakre to start News Paper
MNS Chief Raj Thakre is planning to start a news paper in Maharashtra.
IPS changes in UP (UPDATED)
In a minor shake up of IPS officers Uttar Pradesh Government has transferred Prem Prakash SSP Meerut as SSP Agra & Raghuvir Lal who so far was SSP Agra was shifted as SSP Meerut.
Amit Jha is eligible for Joint Secretary's post (UPDATED)
Amit Jha who is presently Director Agriculture in Government of India (GOI) has is eligble to become a Joint Secretary in the GOI.He is an IAS officer of the 1987 batch who belongs to the Haryana cadre.
Sunil Barthwal returns to Bihar cadre (UPDATED)
Sunil Barthwal an IAS officer of the Bihar cadre who belongs to the 1989 batch has returned to his parent cadre.
Avinash Joshi set to join GOI (UPDATED)
As the grapevine has it Avinash Joshi is poised to join Government of India(GOI)on deputation. At present he is heading Sarvashiksha Abhiyan in Assam.He is an IAS officer of the Assam cadre who belongs to the 1994 batch.
Decision about CMD,FCI soon (UPDATED)
A final decision for post of Chairman cum Managing Director(CMD) of the Food Corporation of India(FCI)is going to be taken soon.

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CORPORATE
Will Narendra be ED of the BoI ?
Name of M Narendra ,General Manager of the Corporation Bank, has started doing the round for the post of ED Bank of India.
Chakraborty is Sr. Creative Director TBWA\India- (UPDATED)
Ambareesh Chakraborty, Senior Creative Director with Ogilvy Sri Lanka has been appointed as Senior Creative Director TBWA\India, Western region.
Big Pictures hire Gyanchandni as Head distribution (UPDATED)
The Chief Operating Officer of BigFlix, Kamal Gyanchandni will be heading the Reliance Big Entertainment's subsidiary Big Pictures - that would deal with movie production and distribution.-
Rajiv Lal is CEO Perspectrum Consultancy (UPDATED)
Perspectrum Consultancy, a division of Percept Limited has appointed Rajiv Lal, ex-Euro RSCG (Malaysia) MD as chief executive officer.
NBCC GETS SCHEDULE 'A'
Government of India (GOI)through DPE has upgraded National Buildings Construction Corporation Ltd. (NBCC), a Central PSU under the Ministry of Urban Development, from Schedule 'B' to Schedule 'A' Public Sector Enterprise. NBCC of which Chairman cum Managing Director(CMD)is Arup Roy Choudhury,has already become the largest construction PSE of the Central Government having achieved record turnover income of Rs.2025 crore, gross profit of Rs.418 crore and having paid Dividend of Rs.56 crore to the GOI. It is worth mentioning that NBCC earlier had also received the Top Ten PSU awards twice, from the Prime Minister of India. With Schedule 'A' status, NBCC is now rated as one of the best and top most Central Public Sector Enterprises. This obviously is a momentous day for NBCC, which only a few years ago, was suffering from severe liquidity problem and financial crisis. CMD / NBCC,Arup Roy Choudhury gave the entire credit for this turnaround & achievement to all the members of NBCC family.

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Aaj Ki Aawaz
Mohna ji between terrorism and communalism please do differentiate!!!
You analogy karr rahi hai matters ko vitiate!!!
But seems Mohna and his lot will not correct their misconception!!
They will just indulge in deception!!!
Today for Mohna not the terrorists but Opposition is the foe!!
And to kick the Opposition and please the terrorists to any lengths he can go!!!
Seems he and Amar Singh think alike!!!
Have the same psyche!!!
Amar Singh is trying his level best to woo Muslims and the rest of India can go to hell!!
From his stand and statements this is very easy to tell!!
For Amar clawing back to power is all that matters and is his goal!!!!
And he's going to use every trick in the book in the next general poll!!!
Modi should be used in MP and Rajasthan in the upcoming State elections!!!
In both States BJP faces anti incumbency as per projections!!!
Modi should sell the Gujarat progress formula to people in both these States!!!
Warn them vote for Congress and seal your fates!!!!
Inflation will be killing and if inflation does not kill,
Then every chance is there terror could knock you still!!!
Despite all the allegations Gujarat is peaceful and progressing!!!
Whereas in Centre and in Congress ruled States Congress is messing (up)!!!
In Delhi BJP should add Delhi 's chaotic condition to inflation and insecurity!!!
But top of the list should be security!!!
In the red corner is Mayawathi and Sonia's in the blue one!!!
In this boxing fight score is blue zero and red one!!!


Sonia is livid and has vowed that to the next level she'll take this jhagda!!!
Now let us see who is more thagdaa (stronger)!!!
Amar Singh has offered to coach Sonia so that she can TKO Maya,
And with him bag of dirty tricks Amar hai laaya!!!
But ground reality in UP is that Maya is still going strong and Congress is in the dump,
SP has still not been able to replace its broken middle stump!!!
Seems flouting the law runs in the Big B pariwaar!!!
If Big B has his tax problems then Ash is not lagging far!!!
She claimed NRI status and when IT got hold of her passport they found this not to be the case!
Now action against this wrong declaration karr rahi hai Ash face!!!
When Big B is in hospital Ash may do some drama to put IT on the defensive!!!
Hope you recall last time he was hospitalized how Amar went on the offensive!!
So much money and still they use crooked ways!!!
Looking at them seems crookedness pays!!
Maybe Amar will speak to good pal Mohna and get a clean chit for Ash!!!
And for 'troubling' her Mohna IT ko karre ga bash!!!
Confucius says…… Mohna Ji keep away from Amar Singh…. as far as you can!!
Amar ne kiyaa hai propriety and probity ko apne aap se ban!!

Bharat Kumar

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Forum

Grievances of UDCs of Central Secretariat
Once again we would like to raise our voice through this esteemed website and want to draw kind attention of Higher officers of Department of Personnel &Training, New Delhi. Please look into the long stands grievances of UDCs of Central Secretariat who are forced to live in miserable life while their batch mate in another cadre enjoying time bound promotions.
We would like to draw kind attention of Department of Personnel:
i) Even after 20 years of regular service in UDCs grade (UDCs of 1987 batch) couldn't get regular promotion to the post of Assistant while the work profiles of UDCs & Assistants are almost similar in Secretariat.
ii) Having not conducted any Departmental Test for UDC to Assistant in Secretariat. But the same are available in other cadre like CBDT/CBEC/Accounts departments where departmental examinations are available for eligible employees and they achieved upper post through it.
iii) It is our earnest request to all concerned officers of DOP&T to consider our case sympathetically and upgrade us to the post of Assistant immediately so that we are also suppose to live in good condition and without frustration.
Prabhakar Mishra
What about enhancement in IT exemption ?
I have been following the debate on 6th CPC in this forum.
Nobody has given thought to the enhancement in income tax exemption consequent upon revision in transport allowance (TA). The Government had exempted TA up to Rs. 9600 annually based on the highest TA available to an officer in the Government. This has been revised to Rs. 44544 annually. The exemption limit for TA should be revised accordingly.
R Dayal

Stagnation leads to frustration
In any system stagnation leads to frustration. All the officers from state services namely State civil service, State Police Service, State Forest Service are the most frustrated officers in the system. They are the biggest sufferers in terms of promotion. They are worst part of the State System since their promotion is to happen only when there is a vacancy in All india Services. Their counterparts in the other State services like State Engineering Services, State Information Services etc. get good promotions and become head of department and some lucky ones get into the IAS despite being quite junior in State Services because of the quota for other services. The State Civil Servants must be given opportunity for career growth for a better administrative Structure.
Sunil

Debate on 6th CPC has taken a nasty turn
The debate on the 6th CPC as applicable to the Armed Forces, have taken a nasty "We versus They" turn. Authors from each fraternity have accused the other of being more inefficient; more corrupt etc. Such debates have tended to make believe that the Pay Commission's logic in deciding financial compensation to different Government services ought to based on their inter se relativities in corruption, incompetence, inefficiency etc. The authors have totally ignored that "financial compensation" ought to be based on parameters of nature of performance; relative degrees of difficulties; functional inter-dependence and hierarchies; and legitimacy of socio-economic aspirations. The world over, various scientific models are applied for deciding "compensation system" as relevant to particular occupation & trade. Invariably, the common parameters to establish relativities amongst different trades/occupations, in each of these models are "performance desired per unit cost to company (Govt)"; "Lifetime earnings - since induction through advancements to retirement until death post retirement"; and "Degrees of Difficulty needed to be overcome in acquiring, developing and sustaining requisite competence and later in actual performance". Nobody wants an inefficient, incompetent, corrupt or demoralized Army or bureaucracy or the police or a private sector executive. Hence, it is as important that the compensation package encourages all to perform optimally and seek national goals and objectives working together. This would not happen by pointing fingers at one another or undermining one another's contributions. A visionary and holistic intervention from all concerned is required to resolve the issues to the satisfaction of all and overall good of the nation. Short sighted, parochial responses and childish bickering must be avoided.
Col (retd) Satish Marwah

It is indeed unfortunate
From my point of view and from past experience Defence Minister will resign from his post. But, however, keeping his tradition, he cannot forego the benefits of power and will thus continue. Moreover, there is no immediate vacant slot waiting for him in Kerala for the next three years. It is indeed unfortunate that for the first time the service chiefs are fuming at the government for whatever matter it may be, which is definitely degradation of authority. He has also by supporting their various demands created a huge gap between the civilian employees and the uniformed personnel.
D. Anil Kumar.

Issues concerning AIS working in state governments
I think a lot of discussion has gone on for quite some time on the issues of armed forces parity vis a vis the civil services and the 6th Pay commission. I would like to draw the attention of all concerned on certain issues concerning the AIS working in state governments - 1. The power of suspension has been misused by successive state governments all over the country and it is high time that this power should be exercised only by the central government. 2. There should be stable and secure tenures of officers, not only the AIS 3. The cadre posts of AIS officers as regulated should be protected and 4. The post of the chief secretary should be given legal status with fixed tenures and powers defined by law. These suggestions are not made to enhance the powers/ privileges of the AIS but to make the state bureaucracies work better, more efficiently and a little fearlessly.
Parthsarthi Sen Sharma

Government should guard
Government should guard against the subtle move of the IAS bureaucracy to put the government against the Army Chief. It is matter of public knowledge that Pay Commission is largely for the IAS by the IAS and for the IAS. Our enemies in the neighbourhood must be keenly watching the game and they will be quite happy to see that government is forced to take action against the Army Chief. Sonia and Antony do not seem to have the ability to see through the IAS game. Man Mohan Singh may be able to.
Keshav Prasad

Proposed Armed Forces after 6th CPC
Recently we have seen the mutiny like situation created by Armed Forces after 6th CPC recommendations and implementations. In case the political and bureaucracy allows them to continue like this we may be heading for another Pakistan or Bangladesh. In order to save democracy and control the situation the following steps are suggested:
1. Cabinet Secretary to be upgraded to Principal Cabinet Secretary.
2. Defense Secretary to be upgraded to Cabinet Secretary.
3. Service Chiefs to be brought under the control of Cabinet Secretary.
4. Service personnel to be withdrawn completely from the mixed organizations.
5. In case service personnel occupy posts in the mixed organizations the personnel from all the streams should be paid same and should enjoy the same facilities and status as envisaged for the post.
6. Service personnel should be paid any amount as deemed fit while doing the duty for which they have been recruited.
7. During British period also as back as 1923 through Army instruction 1014 two types of payment schemes were envisaged. Para 10 of the Instruction very clearly speaks that in case Sappers and Miners officer (now corps of Engineers) employed in MES shall be paid at MES rates and shall be born on MES strength and vice versa.
8. The two rates of payment shall clear the confusion and the service personnel relieved from the mixed organizations shall fulfill the deficiency of the officers in the fighting formations.
9. Service personnel sitting in Delhi, Pune , Bangalore etc. should be stripped off MSP and other service benefits while doing the duty of a normal civilian personnel. The above steps have become inescapable to contain the situation from becoming bad to worse. Hope political masters and bureaucrats shall take the suggestions in a right spirit and implement the same at the earliest.
Nivedita

Army Officers earn more
Army Officers earn more than Civilian Officers of their age for almost all their career
Mohan

Do you want army rule in India ?
Spread rumours which are believable
Do you want army rule in India ?
RK
Government must take action

The Government must take action as Service Chief has acted like Trade Union Leader. If Government does not take action, in that case we may face a situation like Pakistan. The Chief may start disobeying.
Devendra

It would be in poor taste
It would be in very poor taste if the government took any such action, especially after the Admiral Bhagwat incident. The defence forces are already demoralised, and any such action would sound the death knell. The chiefs would have to fight back since they have their back against the wall.
The entire episode should be analysed by someone who knows leadership, which is not taught in the Lal Bahadur Shastri Institute. So let the leaders come up instead of administrators.
Yash

Is it a sin ?
This is with reference to demand of pay by Armed Forces. It is amazing that every one saying there should be discipline. Is it sin to demand rightful pay. If no one is ready to listen then where is the forum for them. They are only demand the positing they were having before the implementation of the 6th CPC. Is it a sin. Why so much hue and cry?. I have examples when the very efficient IAS/IPS officers have run away from the authorities when they do not find a suitable position. Even they resign. What is the demand. Only what the status equivalent to those officers with whom they were equal before the 6th CPC. Their demand is right. If FM can come to the conclusion for IRS. Then why not he thinks so for Armed Forces. If any one finds any indiscipline in armed forces due to 6th CPC, it is the creation of so called for super classes of the bureaucracy. They are only to be blamed if situation goes out of control and worsen. It is the high time to fist understand the demand then only to comment.
Suresh Kumar

Pay anomalies
In the present scenario of total transparency and liberalisation, I support the joint stand taken by the three chiefs of Armed Forces with regard to pay structures. It is noteworthy that the 6th CPC did not have any representative as a Member to project their demands. It is an open secret that the current 6th CPC Rreport as always was authored by the IAS service association to ensure the supreme status of their own Service. If this is correct, then what is wrong with the Army's protest.The Prime Minister was right in having interaction with the three Chiefs of the Armed Forces before deciding upon their pay structures.
A K Saxena (A retired civil servant)

That's news!
I heard the Cabinet Secretary may have to resign - or so the chiefs are insisting.
V Jha

No confidence in highest civil servants
Ever since the implementation of the VIth PC recommendations, your site has been publishing the disappointments/disgusts of various services, who feel they have been subjected to discrimination. It is true that partiality and discrimination has become the order of the day. For proof, catalogue the successes of the pressure groups, who had made the government to modify the cabinet decisions. More is expected to flow from the pay commission cell operating from the Finance Ministry. It will continue to be in service till the appointment of the next PC a decade later. But the grievances highlighted on this site are a clear no confidence motion against the highest civil servants in the country, who act like the defacto government-the CSB/COS. They are not known for their objectivity, ethical values, conduct in accordance with the rules as laid down. The moral authority of the Cabinet Secretary has been completely eroded by those who were supposed to establish a reputation of the highest ethical standards in services. There were those stalwarts till about a decade or so ago. Cabinet Secretaries who inspired and Secretaries who moulded their subordinates to act fearlessly as per the norms. Can someone justify nondrawal of the panel of additional secretaries/secretaries from other civil services since 1993?Can the government penalise the concerned officers for such stupendous machinations and draw the panels even belatedly and grant promotions in the same way the courts rule when matters are contested before them? The cabinet secretary being the chairman of the CSB is required to ensure that the panels are regularly brought out in time as per the laid down law and if he/she can not ensure it, government servants are bound to lose faith in the system of governance and indulge in conduct termed as unbecoming of a government servant. The number of grievances on whispers and the language in particular, of these grievances are a telling no confidence in the highest authorities headed by the Cabinet Secretary and are ill omen!
God save India!
M L Gupta

The only way out
The only way out of the current impass is induction of IAS officers into the Armed Forces at Brig upwards level. The Army should be structured as is being advocated, like PMF and it should be officered, Brig and above by the IAS, the system as being applicable for the IPS Officers. Induction below that for the oldies will not be suitable. In Police forces, the IPS are appointed at position of DIG and above.
Armed Forces Officers should be all SSC officers and discarded at maximum ten years of Service. In order to Command the battalions about 200 Colonels can be important since booming economy will permit it.
That is the only way out. Or the Indian Armed Forces will be badly fractured and tortured by the Civil Services. What is use of having a "Tortured Army".
Let IAS play Brigs and Generals. No other solution seems to be is sight due to powerful negative attitudes. In order to save the IAS as a Service and the Nation, the suggestion is the only answer.
Thank you
Lokendra

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