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Sujit Banerjee to be Secretary Culture ?
Sujit Banerjee is likely to be appointed new Secretary Culture in the Government of India.1972 batch UP cadre IAS officer, Banerjee, is presently Secretary Chemical Weapons Convention in the Cabinet Secretariat.
Did PM support raise in retirement age ?
Did Prime Minister Manmohan Singh suggest in the Cabinet meeting about raise of retirement age from 60 to 62 years ?.Informed sources said that the PM did move a proposal to this effect in the Cabinet but the other Ministers opposed it pointing out the annoyance of the new generation during the election year.
Placements of 1978 batch IAS to commence shortly
Placement of empanelled IAS officers belonging to the 1978 batch with Government of India (GoI) is expected to commence this month only.
DG DD and DG Akashvani interview in last week
Much awaited interviews for the post of DG Doordarshan and Akashvani are going to take place in the last week of this month.
CSB for empanelment of 1989 batch IAS held
Finally CSB for empanelment of IAS officers belonging to 1989 batch to the rank of Joint Secretary in the Government of India took place on Friday.
Early General elections forecast
An early poll to the Lok Sabha is on the anvil, feel political pundits. However, it may be held in the beginning of year 2009.
Mittal leaves ILFS
D K Mittal has quit the ILFS. He is 1977 batch IAS officer of Uttar Pradesh cadre.
Banerjee to retire this month end
Secretary Tourism, Shilabhadra Banerjee, is superannuating by this month end. He is 1971 batch IAS officer of Andhra Pradesh cadre.
Vijay Chauhan to join as OSD to Finance Minister
Vijay Chauhan is all set to join as OSD to Finance Minister P Chidambaram in a day or two. He is 1992 batch IRS (CE&C) officer. He will replace Rajul Awasthi.
Arvind Joshi set to join GoI
As the grapevine has it, Arvind Joshi is poised to join Government of India (GoI) on deputation. He is 1994 batch IAS officer of the Assam cadre.
Manish Sharma is DTP, Dubai
Manish Sharma, who was earlier Director Security with the Airports Authority of India (AAI), has reached Dubai as Director Tea Promotion (DTP) in the Indian Ministry of Commerce & Industry. Besides having done MBA he also did a course in Export promotion which is going to prove quite handy for Manish Sharma who is a Madhya Pradesh cadre IPS from the 1992 batch.
(We said this on September 8,2008).
Cadre of IAS officer changed
Cadre of 2006 batch IAS officer Dr P. Ulaganathan has been changed from Nagaland to West Bengal.
Who will succeed Srivastava ?
Who will succeed B K Srivastava, Member Appellate Tribunal (Prevention of Money Laundering Act) and Member of Appellate Tribunal for forefeited property (ATFP) ? Five names of 1974 and 1975 batch IRS officers has reportedly been finalized by the Department of Revenue.
Majumdar joins Multi-national firm
A J Majumdar former Member of (FTD) CBDT, has reportedly joined top Multinational /National CA Firm as Senior Consultant Foreign Taxation. He is retired 1971 batch IRS officer.
Ms Haldea promoted to ACS rank in Rajasthan
Ms R R Haldea has been promoted to the rank of ACS in Rajasthan. She is 1974 batch IAS officer.
Charge distribution in CBEC this week
After joining of Rakesh Sharma as Member of the CBEC fresh charge distribution is going to take place this week.
G C Srivastava is Chancellor of University in UP
G C Srivastava has joined as Chancellor of the Swami Vivekanand Subharti University Meerut. He is 1967 batch retired IAS officer of UT Cadre. Srivastava has held many important positions in the Government of India and the CAT.
There is now hope in MOS&PI
Consequent of recent change of guards in the apex position of two organisations of MOS&PI, there is a lot of hope of fair statistical leadership. However, some insiders feel that the MOS&PI will continue to loose its sheen, unless these two newcomers prove their worth by displaying their involvement and articulation skill motivating a huge army of competent ISS officers looking at them for widening the vision.
DPC for CCIT (CE&C) on October 8
DPC will meet on October 8 to empanel 20 Chief Commissioners of Central Excise and Customs (CE&C).
Who will be CIT in Delhi ?
With the posting of Ms Rani Nair, another post of Commissioner of Income tax has fallen vacant in Delhi bringing the number of vacant posts to 3. Rumour has it that 3 lady officers are being posted.
HAG Promotions in Indian P&T AFS
S.C. Johorey(1976), Gurmel Singh(1976) and G. Algarswamy(1977) of the Indian P&T Accounts and Finance Service are reported to have been promoted to the HAG in the Ministry of Communicarions
Lakha to be Chairman of UP PSC
S R Lakha is being appointed new Chairman of the Uttar Pradesh Public Service Commission. He is 1979 batch IAS officer.
Ms. Kakarla Usha is Director,NIFT,Bangalore
Ms. Kakarla Usha has joined as Director of the newly opened Bangalore based centre of National Institute of Fashion Technology (NIFT). Ms.Usha who is an IAS officer of the Tamil Nadu cadre belongs to the 1994 batch. Earlier she was Collector, Chennai.
Navin Kumar Choudhary joins IMF
Navin Kumar Choudhary who was relieved from the post of Director in Department of Economic Affairs(DEA) to join as Executive Director's(ED's)Advisor in the International Monetary Fund(IMF) on September 29, 2008,has assumed his charge in Washington. Choudhary is an IAS officer of the 1994 batch & belongs to the Jammu & Kashmir cadre.
(We said this on September 10,2008)
Sharma to be ED ERP !
IRPS officer Sunil Sharma is likely to be appointed ED ERP.
Former Karnataka DGP is no more
Former Karnataka DGP K R Srinivasan has passed away.1972 batch IPS officer was 61.
IAS changes in Rajasthan
Krisnakant Pathak will now be Collector Bhilwara. Hemant Kumar Gera has been moved to Jodhpur as Collector.
IPS postings in Rajasthan
Jose Mohan will now be SP Jodhpur. H G Raghvendra Gera has been shifted from Bhilwara to Jodhpur as SP.
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Empanelemeent of 1989 batch IAS to be finalized soon (UPDATED)
Empanelement of IAS officers belonging to the 1989 batch for deputation posting to Government of India(GOI) is expected to be finalized soon as Rahul Sarin Secretary Personnel is going to finalise shortly minutes of the CSB held on Friday. All relevant dossiers are with him.
Campaign of Congress to be launched (UPDATED)
Campaign of the Congress party in a very big way is going to be launched soon after the Indo -American nuclear deal was finalized.
REC pays 30% dividend for the year 2007-08 (UPDATED)
P. Uma Shankar,Chairman cum Managing Director (CMD), Rural Electrification Corporation, (REC) presented a dividend cheque for Rs.210.76 crore to Sushilkumar Shinde Indian Minister of Power for the year 2007-08, in a brief ceremony held in the Ministry of Power, Government of India on October 3, 2008. On this occasion,Anil Razdan, Secretary (Power) and senior officials of REC and the Ministry of Power were also present.The Company has registered robust performance, creating an all-time record in all key operational parameters. The amount of loans sanctioned increased by 63% over the previous year to Rs.46,770 crore from Rs.28,630 crore, excluding Grants under RGGVY. The amount of disbursements increased by 19% to Rs.16,304 crore from Rs.13,733 crore, which included Grants under RGGVY. The recoveries increased by 37% to Rs.9,042 crore from Rs.6,585 crore. The Operating income increased by 27% to Rs.3,378 crore from Rs.2,652 crore. The Profit before Tax increased by 30% to Rs.1,312.42 crore from Rs.1,006.19 crore. Similarly, the Profit after Tax also increased by 30% to Rs.860.15 crore from Rs.660.26 crore.
Direct Taxes register growth (UPDATED)
Net direct tax collections during first six months of the present fiscal (up to September 2008) stood at Rs.147,197 crore, up from Rs.111,055 crore, registering a growth of 32.54 percent. Growth in Corporate Taxes was 35.65 percent (Rs.95,283 crore as against Rs.70,240 crore), while Personal Income Tax (including FBT, STT and BCTT) grew at 26.94 percent (Rs.51,701 crore as against Rs.40,729 crore). Growth of Fringe Benefit Tax (FBT) was 62.23 percent (Rs.3,580 crore against Rs.2,207 crore); Securities Transaction Tax (STT) was 2.72 percent (Rs.3,182 crore against Rs.3,098 crore); and Banking Cash Transaction Tax (BCTT) was 17.65 percent (Rs.320 crore against Rs.272 crore).Growth in corporate tax deducted at source (TDS) remained above 52 percent; and PIT TDS grew at 28 percent despite substantial tax relief allowed to individual taxpayers in the Union Budget 2008. Corporate TDS collections stood at Rs.30,810 crore as on September 30,2008 against Rs.20,210 crore during the corresponding period last year. PIT TDS stood at Rs.33,276 crore as against Rs.26,002 crore in the same period. Self-assessment tax paid by both corporate and non-corporate taxpayers, voluntarily before filing their tax returns, registered substantial growth at 111 percent and 71 percent, respectively.Continued high growth in TDS and FBT collections indicates inherent strength of the Indian economy and continued improvement in tax administration. Higher growth in self-assessment tax indicates continued improvement in tax compliance levels.

CORPORATE
Parleys between Ratan Tata & Mukesh Ambani
A couple of meetings between industrial majors namely Ratan Tata & Mukesh Ambani have raised many Eye brows. What is the significance ?.
Bharat Electronics CMD interview today
The PESB will hold interview on Monday for the post of CMD Bharat Electronics.
BHEL to set up super critical nuclear power stations
Pubilc sector major Bharat Heavy Electrical Ltd(BHEL) is going to set up super critical nuclear power stations.A high level team led by Dr.Surajit Mitra Additional ecretary Heavy Industries.Other members of the team were Ravi Kumar Chairman cum Managing Director(CMD) BHEL, C. S. Verma Director (Finance)& B.P. Rao Director (IS & P).Successful talks were held with top bosses of GE & Alstom.
India to acquire coal mines abroad
Governmenmt of India (GoI) being headed by Prime Minister Dr. Man Mohan Singh is going to acquire coal mines abroad. Indian Minister of State for Coal Santosh Bagrodia is leading a high level team to New York that flew from India on Sunday night. He is being accompanied by Sanjiv Mittal Joint Secretary & Financial Advisor in the Coal Ministry, Partha S. Bhattacharyya Chairman Coal India Ltd(CIL) & officials of Coal Videsh. It is understood that the team will be holding parleys with merchant bankers in New York for financial tie ups vis-a vis acquisition of coal properties abroad.
Promotions in Karnataka Bank
Mssrs Ananthapadmanabha B., Chandrashekar Rao B., Ravishankar N.R. , Venkappaya Bhat K. andr Ravindranath Hande have been promoted to the rank of Assistant General Managers in the Karnataka Bank Ltd..

Aaj Ki Aawaz
In India UPA appeases the minority majority but overseas it's the Christian west!!!
To appease both UPA does its very best!!!
Clashes flare up when unfairness prevails!!!
And when equality in front of law and justice fails!!!!
Rather than getting to the root of the problem UPA is doing pochaa- poochi!!!
Banging BJP and to Christians UPA's doing coochie coochie (lovey-dovey)!!!
Post the attacks on Christians Patil called up Orissa Guv!!!!
But surprisingly post Delhi blasts Patil did no get a call from above!!!
Mohna and Sonia just made a statement and moved on!!!!
And there was a stoic silence from Sonia's son!!!!
Patil was more bothered about his attire!!!
Was totally fixated with his looks in circumstances that were so dire!!!
Flashes will continue till the Church's conversion penchant is not canned!!
And the solution is not to get Bajrang Dal banned!!!!
Amar has threatened it will withdraw support!!!!!
In newspapers on the fourth page one got to see this report!!!!
Amar Singh is now taken with dollops of salt!!!
All know his stupidity is not going to come to a halt!!!!!
Though Amar will now portray SP as Suckers Party!!!!
At becoming an underdog Amar is very arty!!!!
Fact is in just a few weeks Congress realized what it'll have to pay,
If in its corner Amar was to stay!!!
Why doesn't Congress tell SP lets go our ways????
And post election lets catch up after we hear what the voter says!!!
Though by simple maths Congress and SP votes look a winning combination!!!
But dono ke vote banks have some commonness and this should dull the elation!!
Mohna ultimately showed the World like Sonia Bush does not puppeteer him!!!
That he does not obey Bush's every whim!!!
Condoleezza was here hoping to seal the Deal!!!!
But India refused till the Deal has the US Presidential seal!!!
Has Bush misplaced the Presidential Seal?????
Or is India waiting for him to clear the air on the riders in the Deal!!!
But point to be noted is if Bush says anything to the contrary what will India do!!!!
My guess is Pranab will sign the Deal and let out a big boo!!!
Why is Modi not being granted a Visa????
Yes we'd like to know Madam Condoleezza!!
Many human rights organizations accuse Bush for the Iraq war!!!!
And cite it as humanity ki haar!!!
Despite India 's stand India gave Bush a Visa?????
Hope you are able to see US's holier than thou attitude Madam Condoleezza!!!
Confucius says…… Bush pushed has made this World on all fronts very insecure!!!
An insecurity that is very difficult to cure!!!!
Adds…. If Osama's dead they'll get a clone and if not US will net Osama!!!
Before Bush demits Office he will be seen in camera glare with a chained Osama shouting 'I got him Mama'!!!
Bharat Kumar

Forum
An area of concern
The news of Mukesh Ambani meeting an Additional Secretary in the Government may be an issue of discussion for the Corporate Circles for any reasons but this is an area of concern when this issue is being discussed by the Political & Bureaucratic circles. It is a fact today that most of the persons in the Indian Bureaucracy feel proud if some top business man has met them. They will run after to get his work done and at the same place if a poor person with his genuine problems comes to their door even his personal staff will not entertain him. Our constitution says every citizen has equal rights and it is the duty of Government that every individuals rights are secured but it is really pathetic that todays civil servants have lost that sense of responsibility. They like politicians have also become yes man of Top Business man & Industrialists. SS
True framework for government servants survival
The very essence and soul of Sixth Pay Commission, headed by irascible and principled, fiercely independent and deeply patriotic Justice (Retired) B N Srikrishna, not only provides all the three major contributors, necessarily consistent to Government servants prosperity, productivity and standard of living, in the form of Pay Bands for each post belonging to a distinct functional area arranged in a hierarchical order representing different grades or levels of responsibility but also the true framework for Indian Government servants survival.
Truly, departing from the traditional ethos "Service Before Self", and unprecedented in the history of the country and undesirable from the armed forces, the three respective Chiefs of the disciplined armed forces waging epic struggles have invariably, singularly and or in plurality aired their "psychologically flawed" views and unfair dissent to the government decision on sixth Pay Commission openly and publicly. The statements are given to press pertaining to the Lt Col as the war heroes, nay, lonely warriors, who in their opinion have been victimized and harassed by the government. The impression is being created as if Lt Cols/equivalents of armed forces are too senior and competent to their counterparts in Ministry of Defence / other Ministries and departments under GoI. These are worth looking into but it is also worth noting that we only have this leverage with the Armed Forces. As events unfold, however, almost all of this instant analysis will prove sensationalist, misguided and incorrect. The anomalies committee seemed to have refusing to endorse the more dictatorial and assertive Armed Chiefs actions and legitimize the new facts on the ground.
The Chiefs of Staff Committee Chairman and Indian Navy Chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta wrote a letter to Defence Minister A K Antony on 01 Sep 2008 saying these core issues, if left unaddressed, will result in "despondency" among the armed forces. He also went to the extent that the command and control functions will be seriously hampered between Army, BSF and CPMF where infighting will jeopardize operations. Bold announcements and re-announcements of initiatives and combative spirited reviews as part of "a series of morale-boosting get-togethers" could demonstrate strength, dominate the news for a while, entrench all serving and retirees of armed forces and possibly even straitjacket some rivals in the Ministries and outside the Ministries like Deputy Secretaries and Joint Directors, by keeping them busy with new jobs. The Service Chiefs will then briefly transplant the entire system from South Block to well outside Delhi to try to show they have not lost their military might and pressures over the government. Finally, though showmanship has never been their forte, they will use the opportunities and their influence to try to re-launch themselves and their hierarchy by pledging, among other things, to steer their demands safely through troubled economic waters.
The patriarchs are quoting the hardships faced by the armed forces during hostilities and works undertaken in aid to civil authorities - the ground to seek higher pay. The impression is being given to the country that if the Lt Col are not placed in PB-4, there could be a serious backlash. It was not a productive proposal. It had the paradoxical effect of making the irresponsible statement after Sixth Pay Commission submitted its report. Doing it pragmatically rather than ideologically produces better results. The exhibition eschews the real facts. Making the rhetoric inflammatory - as opposed to showing anomalies committee the cool realities - is not helpful. The fact is that less than 50% of the armed forces personnel are deployed in CI Ops, high altitude, facing hostile conditions and in aid of civil administration in case of natural calamities, for which they are adequately compensated through various allowances and incentives.
Consequent to AVS Committee, a newly commissioned army officer becomes Lt Col in first 12 years without facing even a single selection board, whereas their counterparts have to face selection board for every promotion earned. The first selection board faced by the army officer is only at the level of colonel. Therefore, there could be no reason why a Lt Col be put in PB-4, that simply means that an officer would reach the highest pay band (PB-4) without facing even a single selection board. That would not only be mockery of the system but also making the very sanctity of highest pay band to lose, if it is given on a platter to every armed forces officer.
The equivalence of Lt Col to the Deputy Secretary / Joint Director is well established. In fact as per their own Army order No 8/85 of 1985 Lt Cols when posted to Army Head Quarters are designated as Joint Director. Similarly a Colonel is designated as Director. This is the position even today. If a Lt Col are placed in PB-4, leaving Deputy Secretary in PB-3, the post of Joint Director, which is manned by Lt Col/equivalents and Deputy Secretary becomes redundant, the Deputy Secretary become junior to Lt Col. The entire hierarchy needs then to be redefined.
It is poignant to note that to prove their threatening stance adopted now as valid, a new theory has been mooted in that for the purpose of equivalence between Defence forces personnel and their civilian counterparts their rank pay was to be added to their basic scale of pay. DOP&T have clarified n number of times in the past that rank pay would be part of basic pay for all purposes (taking care of "X" factor) but not for the purpose of deriving equivalence. The fact remains that pay scale of Lt Col was Rs 13500-17100 +1600 rank pay and not Rs 15100-18600 as being made out mischievously. The Lt Cols have been correctly shown equivalent to JAG (Rs 12500-16500) by SPC on page 74 of their report. The same relativity was given by earlier Pay Commissions as also mentioned by SPC in their report on page 73.
With the likely implementation of AVS-II the armed forces are going to be further diluted as everyone will reach the rank of Colonel/equivalent without facing selection board in a time bound manner whereas counterpart civilian officer continue to face selection board. In fact armed forces want financial benefits without diluting their rank. Contrary to this, they want dilution of civilian ranks by equating senior civilian officer to their junior ranks.
AKB
Harsh but true
It has been sad experiences to watch on TV show the retired Officers uneducated in their own self. Harsh but true. Any response will be welcome by our esteemed Defence Service officers, not with rhetoric but facts. We welcome if Government gives an block 25% high pay for Army officers with respect to IPS/IFS/IES etc benchmarked with length of service AND withdraw all extra benefits over civil services together whatsoever they are in service/post retirement. Even a 50% increase will save the government a huge money in taxes exemptions granted to defence forces etc. It will be a great service to Nation to grant that much pay hike for difficult service. Secondly, while on civil peace posts in DRDO/BRO/MES/IMA/CME etc/ posted to peace formations they should be paid at civil rates.
It has been too much of the Blackmailing tactics to which the Army/Navy/AF serving and retired officers are resorting to. It has become really shameful for senior and retired officers to have such poor knowledge and that they are in fact misinforming the troops that post independence successive and this government has done a great injustice to them. The morale of troops is not low but greed of certain senior officers is crossing the limits expected from the government servants. As a citizen I want pose certain questions and facts to our brothers to respond. We may appreciate that knowledge of even our many journalists is limited wrt Armed forces and hype and love for safety of Motherland sway them. The pool results on TV shows are clear indication of the writing on wall that Forces are taking full advantage of sympathy coming out of ignorance of public and it sets a very-very dangrous trend and the world history has proved it on many occasions:-
Remarks Fact
1 What was the qualification to enter IMA as officer in Army earlier? Now you want to compare IAS with that. 12th pass for all except Degree Engineers, graduate entry etc
2 What length of service was required to become Lt Col in 1920's The honour and equivalence being talked about. At no stage the pay of Armyofficer was higher than ICS. It was equal to civil when they were posted to Civil services like IPS/IFS/IES etc. But Army officers got their equivalent rank with longer service as their qualification have always been lower as know. 23 Years
3 What length of service was required for Lt Col in 1949 18 Years
4 What length of service was required for Lt Col in 2008 9 Years post qualification given by Army at CME etc for engineers etc, 13/11 years for others.
5 What was stated at AV Singh committee report 90% officers occupying posts of Majors were given Lt Col rank and pay. Why did army kept quit and did not object that Lt Col are being made to work at posts which are held by Captain/Major. Only to blackmail/cheat government now? Please realise you are not fighting war with enemy but poor common men. All Lt Col will work on the post of Major which were upgraded en-block
6 When in history ICS/IAS were at same level as Army officer? You want to compare a Lt Col ( 9 years working experience at the responsibilities of 4 years which he was to do as Major) and ask for equivalence of Lt Col who worked for 23 years and drew a pay 90 years ago in a Colony. You want an equivalence higher that what was in a colony which was destroyed by Mahatama . 1924 Scales were as under:-(a) Equal work equal pay concept prevailed. When Army officers were posted to Railway/PWD/Survey of India/IPS/IFS they were given same pay as for the civilian officers. The entire civil service of Doctors in India was manned by Army doctors who draw same pay as civil doctors in Railways. The length of service required was 23 years for Lt Col time scale and 25 years for Selection scale.
7 What was service required for promotion as AEE/EE/SE/DIG/ Conservator of forest in 1920's when for Lt Col it was 23 years It has always been the case that qualification for entry to army were much inferior to ICS and 0ther class I services. Now it is no better. We can try that by asking Army to recruit through UPSC only having a post selection medical/ fitness/psychological examination of their own. 1920'S age limits for IES officers: AEE-0-3 YEARS, EE- 7 years onwards, SE-14 YEARS onwards. Now even after IV CPC the Lt Col were given SE in departments like MES after 18 years while class I officers were in 9 years.
8 What qualities are required to fight wars, pay or orientation? That way a jawan will never fight for one tenth of salary of his Lt Col Do we think world wars were not fougt with less pay than more qualifired civil servants.
9 How ICS compared with army? The difference has been narrowed down post independence. The ICS officers got a pay of 2250 in 23 years service, IPS/IES/IRSE/IFS/ARMY Rs 1350/1375. That was in 1924.
10 What is that date when the Lt Col was ever equal/superior to even DIG/SE whose scale is being asked for? Never in Indian history
11 Sixth pay commission gave reasoned response to all queries why Army going to press to distort public opinion on misinformation campaign? Poorly informed and greedy Generals
12 Have you studied, the subject before going to press and public? Poorly informed and greedy Generals
13 Is it not the duty to first put facts before public; before asking opinion? Poorly informed and greedy Generals
14 What harm happens if some Lt Col etc leave, as it is they are being wasted at Majors appointments as there is no work for their length of service. They are getting permanent service benefits for filling posts for short service. It will be good for country and Army, they will get better pay outside and Army can find best of the people.
14 Why Army still continues making officers who are merely 10th pass through Special lists officers bypassing UPSC. Is it in national interest to deny opportunity to qualified young men? Fraud on Constitution/Youth of country
15 Why Army failed to find 12000 suitable officers in a country of 100 crores or it is a strategy so that officers get faster promotions? Strategy
16 How the benefits of Military service pay, free ration, free clubs, subsidised water/electricity/transport/travel/housing/assured admissions/school fee waiver/higher pension/ higher insurance/CSD/ reservation in jobs/training for post retirement job at government expense are to be accounted which Army got in last 50 years over and above the Civil services while their entry qualifications is much less than that of civil services/ An average officer in army gets 100% more than a civilian in pay + perks
Harsh
Equivalence between Civilian and Military Officers
Whenever two systems are compared for equivalence, it starts from the top of both the systems and then brought down to the lowest denominator. If Joint Chief of Staffs could be equated to the Cabinet Secretary, the three Chiefs will be equivalent to Secretaries to GOI, Lt Gen to Additional Secretaries to GOI, Maj Gen to Joint Secretary to GOI, Brigadier to Director in the GOI etc. If the Armed Forces considers Lt Col, Col, and Brigadier belonging to the same equivalent rank, only then they should be equated to a Director to GOI. Ideally, if Lt Col has been put in PB4, its present civilian equivalent too should be allowed to have at least the same PB and Grade Pay. Ideally, these three ranks in the Indian Army should be separated by differential Pay Grades, the Brigadier getting equal to that of the Director in the GOI.
The current effort to give better salary structure to the Armed Forces officers should not result in downgrading their existing Civilian counterparts.
The reasoning that the Armed Forces are unable to attract enough number of new recruits resulting into shortage of officers, itself is a misnomer and confusing. Does it mean that there are less number of applicants for fresh recruitment than the vacancies available. If it is said that applicants could not be found with adequate OLQs, does it mean that the training process at NDA, IMA and other similar facilities are not geared to impart OLQs and create officers. If it is so, why is the government spending so much on maintaining these institutions? On the hind sight, does it mean that those who join Civil Services have the desired OLQs right from the beginning? What about IITs and premier medical institutes - are all those inducted have the same brilliance to become a global trade mark in the engineering or medical education? No, they are trained to become so. Therefore, the Armed Forces should stop cribbing about not getting enough number of fresh recruits and change its training concept on the basis of the changing societal environment. Remember that those officers too come from the same society.
Let us look at another argument forwarded - each of the recruits joining the Armed Forces do it for the security of their motherland. Firstly, this itself is a myth as most of them join the Forces as a profession and not only due to the urge to serve the motherland. Secondly, do the Armed Forces officers mean to say that other officers in the civil services are any less patriotic? I would suggest them to correct this misconception. Different ways to serving the same motherland is taken up by various services/professions in India and they too should not be ridiculed.
Corruption, if defined as a concept that can not be justified according to the existing set of rules approved by the legislature or executive, the Armed Forces too has its own share of corrupt officers and there should not possess an attitude of holier than thou.
Let us look at these things from a different perspective. Why should not the Civilian officers be allowed to enjoy the same facilities and perks as given to the Armed Forces officers? How about CSD, free ration, dedicated schools and colleges, travel concessions, leave rules etc. Make the leave rules different for officers serving during the war and different for those serving at the peace time stations. The later should be the same as those applicable to any civil servant in a secretariat environment.
Another misconception is that Armed Forces officers devote more time to their work than their Civilian counterparts - let us compare a hard working Joint Secretary in the Government of India to a Maj Gen in the Indian Army. I am not trying to ridicule the later, but then the notion that they work harder in the peacetime and therefore should be given better rewards itself is questionable. The proportion of civil servant facing war like situation from the fellow nationals is in no way less than those in the Armed Forces. At least they have guns and ammunition in their hands, the civil servants have the only power of persuasion and pen.
At lower ranks, consider district level officers, who face war like situations every singly day and that too from their own compatriots - don't we need to look into their rewards better?
I hope the above paragraphs will provide some additional food for thought.
A Visitor
Pay should be equal for equal work
Armed forces may be paid an additional amount for obeying orders to the peril of their life as deemed fit by you.
Armed forces may be paid an additional amount for the withdrawal of right to strike as you deem fit.
Armed forces may be paid full salary upto the age of 60 like all other govt employees.
The average take home amount of every government employee should have the same amount for all ranks in the armed forces and other employees upto the age of 75
An examination would reveal that the mute faujis were cheated all along by their countrymen!
Facts are better than opinions. Examine facts, open your eyes, don't believe statistics tailor made to justify an opinion. Wake up Indian population, wake.
Loknathan
Observations are lopsided
Mahesh Sharma's observations about the army are lopsided because he does not have an iota of an idea about army life. I just want to repeat for the knowledge of this poor human who know nothing about life in the "Services".
I want to ask him what is the compensation he will take for a taking a bullet in his chest or for that matter how much compensation does he want for his legs getting blown up due to a mine.
However, for him to understand which I know is difficult.....I am pasting something Kautilya had to say to Kind Vikramaditya Maurya...."…My Lord, that the day when the Mauryan soldier has to demand his dues or, worse, plead for them, will neither have arrived
overnight nor in vain. It will also bode ill for Magadha. For then, on that day, you, My Lord, will have lost all moral sanction to be King!
It will also be the beginning of the end of the Mauryan Empire!!" (Advice of Kautilya to Maurya)
And most of his comments about the perks and privileges that he has mentioned about are baseless and untrue.
Krishna Nambiar
CSS & CSSS and GoI's policy
It is saddening to note that the esteemed medium of 'Forum' has unnecessarily been dragged in the useless CSS/CSSS debate, for weeks now. It would have been comical, if it was not pathetic, to see how their members are portraying themselves as central to the functioning of the govt., with jargon like 'policy noting', drafting 'cabinet notes' etc. Fact of the matter is that they only perform subordinate and peripheral tasks of glorified stenos and in today's context can be dispensed with entirely.
KD Joyal.-AIS Officer.
Dearth of experienced doctors
What about doctors working in central government and autonomous institutes?. How about increasing their retirement age to 62 .Now a days no body is joining government hospitals. Most of the younger doctors go abroad. There is a acute dearth of experienced doctors hence this suggestion.
Dr Manjula Rau
There is a reason for that.
Bush is happy because he has secured the commercial interest of USA by getting the deal passed. Man Mohan Singh is happy that he has been arm-twisted (cartoon depicts he is leg-twisted) by Bush and not by Karat & Co. Though not mentioned in the whisper but political fixers will be doubly happy at the prospect of cuts in millions emerging from the nuke deal.
Keshav Prasad
UPA govt should take bold action
UPA Government should take similar bold action for Central Government Servants also to settle all controversies what-so-ever once for all regarding raising of retirement age to 62 years. Apart from this if I may echo the feelings of all officers belonging to Central Group 'A' services, the relevant office order regulating the parity concept with IAS officers maintaining the minimum band-width of 2 years of service is eagerly awaited by one and all.
Nikhil