Very authentic and interesting source but there should be a provision where we can see the previous news/information at least after one day.                                                                                                    
S M Tahir Ali


Contact-suresh.mehrotra@yahoo.com> & <mehrotra.suresh@gmail.com>

INDIA’s BUSINESS HOUSE (7)
One  fast emerging business group has found a novel idea to get things done. If  things are done without delay,  the group will provide you a flat or a house in the prime location. Guess the name.
Official list of 1977 IAS’ batch empanelment                                    
This is the official list of the empanelment of 1977 batch IAS officers to the rank of Secretary in the Government of India. Mssrs D K Mittal,G C chaturvedi,Shekhar Agrawal,M Haleem Khan,Loretta Mary Vas,P K Sinha ,Nita Choudhury(UP )Raj Kumar ,P K Chaudhary,Manik B Sonawane (Haryana),Alok Rawat (Sikkim) Naved Masood ,R K Mathur(MT) J Jose Cyriac (Kerala) R N Senapati, N C Vasudevan (Orissa) S S Brar, D S Kalha (Punjab) Subodh Kumar ,G B Pradhan,U C Sarangi (Maharashtra) Parvez Dewan (J & K)Gurunurkar Sudhir (AP) Sudhir Krishna (Karnataka) Surajait Mitra,Alok Perti,Sharad Gupta (AM) Rakesh Kackar ,M Sarangi,Ajay Bhattacharya (TamilNadu) O P Rawat,Vishwapati Trivedi, D R S Chaudhary (Madhya Pradesh ) P K Tripathi,A K Mathur ,Shumsher K Sherrif(UT) Vilasini Ramachandran (Gujarat)P K Deb ,Sangita Gairola(Rajasthan) P Joy Ooommen (Chhattisgarh ) P K Pradhan ,A S Lamba (West Bengal) Ashok Thakur (Himachal Pradesh ).
   ( We said this on July14,that number is 43 )
Eight 1977 batch IAS in Secretary Equivalent list
Eight 1977 batch IAS officers have been able to find place in Secretary Equivalent list. They are Noor Mohammad (UP), J P Singh (UT), D A Coutinho (Karnataka), C V Ananda Bose (Kerala), Jayant M Mauskar (AM), Chinmay Basu (Orissa), Sundaram Krishna (Punjab) and Sarojini Thakur (Himachal Pradesh).
Non-inclusion of name of Padamvir Singh surprises everyone
Non –inclusion of Padamvir Singh in the list of empanelment of 1977 batch to the rank of Secretary has come as a big surprise to all his batchmates. Padamvir Singh who is presently Director in the Lal Bahadur Shastri National Academy of Administration is Madhya Pradesh cadre IAS officer.
Mathew  also springs surprise
One of the finest IAS officer in the 1977 batch C K Mathew also does not figure in the list of empanelment to the rank of Secretary. Mathew is currently ACS in Rajasthan. It was stated that he was not considered for empanelment since he has never been on central deputation.
Chhattisgarh Chief Secretary Empanelled
Chhattisgarh Chief Secretary P Joy Oommen  has been empanelled to the rank of Secretary in the Government of India. Will 1977 batch IAS officer Oommen go to GoI ?.
Another surprise in non-inclusion of Madhav Lal ?
Madhav Lal, who was considered Cabinet Secretary material, has also been not empanelled in the list of empanelment to the rank of Secretary.1977 batch J&K cadre IAS officer Madhav Lal who is currently in GoI is 1955 born .
Mishra could not be empanelled because of foreign assignment
Kumaresh Chandra Mishra  1977 batch IAS officer of Bihar cadre did not find place in the list of empanelment to the rank of Secretary because of his foreign posting. He will get empanelled after his return.
No officer empanelled from  Uttarakhand, Nagaland and Jharkhand
No IAS officer belonging to 1977 batch has been empanelled to the rank of Secretary in the Government of India from Uttarakhand, Jharkhand and Nagaland.
Birthday gift to P.K. Sinha
The news about empanelment in Government of India (GOI) for posting as Secretary for P.K. Sinha Additional Secretary & Financial Advisor in the Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Gas came on the eve of his birthday. He celebrated his birthday on July 18, 2010. He is an IAS officer of the 1977 batch who belongs to the Uttar Pradesh cadre.
1974 batch IAS officers celebrate 36th anniversary
As many as 91 IAS officers belonging to the 1974 batch celebrated the 36th anniversary of their batch in Delhi on July 16, 2010. They had met in the Ashwani BSF Mess in the Nizamuddin East over dinner. Significant aspect of the reunion was that 20 retired IAS officers of the said batch had reached Delhi from different parts of the country
at their own expenses.
Venu Srinivasan appointed Chairman NIFT
TVS President Venu Srinivasan  has been appointed new Chairman of the NIFT. He will succeed 1970 batch retired UP cadre IAS officer D P Singh  whose term expired recently.
       ( We said this on  April 12  and May 26 )
NHAI Chairman interview today 
Interview for the prestigious post of Chairman NHAI will take place on Monday.Only a serving IAS officer is to be selected for the post.One dozen candidates are appearing for the post. 
Why Sinha not called for interview ?
Mystery shrouds as to why A V Sinha, DG Roads, was not called for interview to the post of Chairman of the NHAI. Sinha is considered to be best road engineer in the country.
1974 batch IAS yet to get posting
While 1977 batch IAS is getting ready for posting as Secretary in the Government of India, one 1974 batch IAS officer is still waiting in the wings 1974 batch IAS officer of Madhya Pradesh cadre Ms Ranjana Chaudhary who is empanelled to the rank of Secretary in the Government of India is yet to get posting .
J. S. Deepak, Joint Secretary shifted to Commerce
J. S. Deepak Joint Secretary in Ministry of Communications on lateral transfer has been shifted as Joint Secretary in the Department of Commerce in Government of India (GOI). He is an IAS officer of the 1982 batch who belong to the Uttar Pradesh cadre.
( We said this on June 15 )
Shantha Sheela Nair to retire
Secretary Mining Shantha Sheela Nair is retiring by this month end. She is 1973 batch IAS officer of TamilNadu cadre.
Number of CCIT’s posts to go up
As the grapevine has it, once restructuring of the Indian Revenue Service (IRS) cadre happens the number posts at the level of Chief Commissioners of Income Tax (CCITs) will go up.
Efforts afoot to dislodge Digvijay Singh from Delhi
Efforts are afoot to dislodge AICC general secretary Digvijay Singh from Delhi .One of the most active and popular Congress leader Digvijay Singh is now considered to be threat to several  established  rootless Congress leaders. Now there is a whisper campaign against Digvijay Singh.
Uncertainty over vigilance commissioner
Uncertainty prevails as far appointment of a vigilance commissioner from banking sector was concerned.
What is in store for CEC Navin Chawla?
There is hot discussion in the corridors of power that Navin Chawla Chief Election Commissioner (CEC) about his post retirement plan. What will he do after retirement? There are 3 possibilities: (i) will he go to America?  (ii) Will he become Governor of an Indian State? (iii) If these two possibilities did not settle, he will certainly become an MP in the Rajya Sabha.
Alok Kumar to join in Bihar on deputation
Alok Kumar will be going from J&K to Bihar on inter-state deputation. It has been approved by ACC.He is an IPS officer of the 1997 batch who
belongs to the J&K cadre.
T.Ganprakash to join in Karnataka on deputation
T.Ganprakash will be going from Punjab to Karnataka on inter-state deputation. It has been approved by ACC. He is an Indian Forest Service (IFS) officer of the 1993 batch who belongs to the Punjab cadre. 
Shortage of Director level officers in Urban Development
There is shortage of Director level officers in the Department of Urban Development in the Government of India. Atleast three posts are lying vacant.
Nilam Sawhney to return to AP
Joint Secretary in Rural Development in the Government of India Nilam Sawhney is returning to the parent Andhra Pradesh cadre after completion of central deputation tenure  next month. She is 1984 batch IAS officer.
CSB to meet on July 21, 2010
A meeting of CSB will be held on July 21, 2010. Among others, a final decision about joint secretaries in certain Ministries/departments of Government of India (GOI) will be taken.
Reddy is absorbed in Hyderabad Metro
N V S  Reddy is believed to have been  permanently absorbed in Hyderabad metro as MD. He is 1983 batch IRAS officer .
Blame game is on in Afzal Guru case
The Ministry of Home Affairs and President House are blaming each other on issue of Afzal Guru death sentence related case.  MHA has claimed that the file of Afzal Guru was sent to President House for further action but President House has denied this. MHA has reportedly
stated that President House must take a decision and convey in the said case, so that Ministry can take next step for action as per law.
Ms. Kalpana Awasti appointed OSD to Sam Pitroda
Ms. Kalpana Awasti, has been appointed as Officer on Special Duty (OSD) to Sam Pitroda in the office of PMO. She is an IAS officer of the 1990 batch who belongs to the Uttar Pradesh cadre.
Biresh Kumar joins APPA course
Biresh Kumar Additional Secretary UPSC has  reportedly joined nine months long APPA course in the New Delhi located Indian Institute of Public Affairs (IIPA) that commenced on July 1,2010 .
S T Ramesh to get DG rank in Karnataka
S T Ramesh is being promoted to the rank of DG in Karnataka. He is 1976 batch IPS officer.
IPS changes in Uttar Pradesh
Badri Prasad Singh  will now go to Allahabad as IG Railways. J N  Singh will be DIG Meerut. B P Jogdand has been appointed DIG Moradabad. H C Kashyap has been moved to PAC Lucknow.
Addl.charge for A.C. Padhi, CMD, NSFDC
A.C. Padhi, CMD, NSFDC may be allowed to hold additional charge of the
post of CMD, NHFDC for a period of 3 months w.e.f. 14.5.2010 or until
further orders.
Bureaucratic reshuffle in J & K likely
A bureaucratic reshuffle is likely to take place in J & K this month.
IPS reshuffle in TamilNadu
K.R. Shyam Sundar has been made ADG State Human Rights Commission. J.K. Tripathy IG Enforcement will move to Prisons. Chenbaharaman has been posted as IG Enforcement. N. Kannan SP Coimbatore district will now be SP Thoothukudi district. Kapil  C Saratkar will be the new Superintendent of Police, Thoothukudi district .
M.M. Pallam Raju leads Indian contingent to England
Indian Minister of State for Defence M.M. Pallam Raju is leading a high level delegation to England. Among things the team will be attending the biennial Air Show to be held in Faraborough (England). Pallam Raju has already reached there. Others who too are heading towards England are: R.K. Singh Secretary Defence Production (DP), Manoj Saunik Joint Secretary Defence (Aero), Ashok Nayak Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), Commander-in-Chief Southern Air Command Air Marshal S. Mukerji, P. Soundara Rajan Director Corporate Planning and Marketing HAL, Shiv Murthy Director Finance HAL and S.K. Jha Managing Director (MD) of HAL’s Accessories unit in Lucknow.
 
RTI
Non-availability of information

The appellant desired information regarding risks to employees working
in hazardous units and the treatment provided to workers suspected of
occupational diseases etc. The CIC noted that a circular issued by Dy.
Medical Commission directing ESIC to report all the suspected cases of
occupational disease to the Regional Office, Chief Inspectors of
factories as well as the employer is not being followed. The CIC
observed that the ESIC with a huge budget does not have data about the
health of workers in the country in a centralized manner which it is
required to make public in discharge of its obligation under Section 4
of the RTI Act. The CIC recommended to the ESIC to centrally collect
information on important indicators like suspected occupational
diseases and such other information, put it on the website by 30
August 2010 and update it every month. The PIO was directed to ensure
compliance before 30 August 2010 and send a compliance report to the
Commission and the Complainant.

Comments

This case shows that mere absence of information cannot be taken as a
plea to avoid disclosure. Normally, the PIO is not expected to collect
and data in response to an application. However, if the information
pertains to some basic function of the Public Authority, it must put
in place measures to collect the data and ensure regular updating of
the information uploaded on the website.

[Mohit Gupta v. Employees Estate Insurance Corporation (ESIC), Min
of Labour in Decision No. CIC/DS/C/2010/900116/SG/8312]

- A new decision of CIC brought to you every Monday by Dr. (Mrs.)
Anuradha Verma (dranuradhaverma@yahoo.co.in), Co-author of the book:
RIGHT TO INFORMATION – LAW AND PRACTICE by Taxmann. (The views are
Personal)
Singh  is new ED (Security) ONGC
Shambu  Nath Singh has been  appointed new Executive Director ((Security) in the
ONGC. He is 1986 batch IPS officer of Manipur-Tripura cadre.Singh is presently in the IB.
   ( We said this on June 10)
Sajjanhar is new Ambassador to Sweden
Ashok Sajjanhar, currently Ambassador of India in Kazakhstan, has been appointed as the next Ambassador of India to Sweden.

Parvela Raghu to hold charge of CIT-3, Mumbai from Aug 2

Parvela Raghu, CIT – 5, Ahmedabad, presently posted as CIT (OSD), Mumbai, will hold the charge of CIT-3, Mumbai, w.e.f. Aug 2, 2010.

Railway transfers and postings

Suresh Gupta of SAG/IRSE has been transferred from WCR to the Rly itself, Sushil Kumar of SAG/IRSS has been on return from deputation transferred to metro as COS, B. Deva Singh of SAG/IRSE has been transferred from WCR and posted as CSO on the Rly. itself and RS Punia of SAG/IRSE has been transferred from WCR to SECR and posted in the cadre.

Chug presents cheque of Rs.11,000 towards PM’s Relief Fund

K.K. Chug, Director, Department of Personnel & Training, presented a cheque for amount of Rs.11,000/- towards Prime Minister National Relief Fund to MOS (PP) on 19.7.2010. Chug is reported to be contributing amount accruing to him from his writings and some other assignment he gets to the Prime Minister's National Relief Fund. Till the presentation of this cheque, Chug has contributed Rs 25,000/- towards Prime Minister's National Relief Fund and with this cheque Chug's contribution would amount to Rs.36,000/-. Author of three books, Insaan Nahin Badla, Pahela Pyar and Mera Pahela Shatak, Chug has in pipeline books Mera Beta, Chhoti Badi Baaten (Hindi poetry), a story book under the title Pada Likha Angootha Chaap. Shri Chug also proposes to bring out poetry book My Son and A World of My Dreams in English. Chug dreams of presenting cheque for an amount of Rs.1,00,000/- towards the Prime Minister's National Relief Fund accruing from his writings but this would be the first milestone. He dreams of presenting lakhs and lakhs of Rupees towards Prime Minister's National Relief Fund which may accrue to him from his writings. Some of the poems posted in his blog kkchug.blogspot.com could be of interest to the readers.

Gujarat Tourism adjudged best upcoming Tourism Department

The SAFARI INDIA, a prestigious regional tourism magazine covering India, Nepal, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Pakistan and South East Asia has recognized Gujarat Government’s Tourism Department as the Best upcoming Tourism Department for its outstanding and professional efforts initiated under the dynamic leadership of Chief Minister Narendra Modi in promoting and executing Tourism industry innovatively in the state. The award will be given at “Tourism Leaders’ Conclave and Commonwealth Games” organized by Pacific Area Travel Writers Association – PATWA - at Gurgaon on 18th August 2010. State Tourism Secretary Vipul Mittra will accept the award. The award, according to Sagar Ahluwalia, the Editorial Advisor of SAFARI, recognizes the leadership quality in the field of hotel, tourism, destinations, airlines, travel agent and individuals. It also recognizes the professional work done by the state government.

CORPORATE

Sanjay Jayavardhanevelu in NIFT Board
Sanjay Jayavardhanevelu of Lakshmi Machine Works, Coimbatore, has been nominated on the Board of the National Institute of Fashion Technology (NIFT).
Hindustan Paper Corporation to have new CMD
Who will head the state-run Hindustan Paper Corporation ?. Government is yet to name the CMD.
ABC Paper's MD and directors resign
 N. K. Bajaj, Chairman and Managing director ABC Paper besides directors of Board of the company G. N. Mehra, K. R. Ramamoorthy, Mohit Satyanand, Ravindra Gupta, A. K. Bajaj, V. K. Bajaj and J. C. Rana have resigned from the directorship of the company with effect from 16 July 2010.
Facebook appoints directors
Social networking site Facebook has appointed Kirthiga Reddy and Manoj Varghese as Director ( Online operations) and Director, (User operations) respectively.
Citi's Pandit is Euromoney's 'Banker of the Year'
 Euromoney has named Citigroup CEO Vikram Pandit as Banker of the Year.
New office bearers of Indian Chamber of Commerce
Jayanta Roy, Director, Financial Products Distribution, Peerless General Finance & Investment Company, has been elected President of the Indian Chamber of Commerce for the year 2010-11.  Srivardhan Goenka, Director, Duncan Goenka Group, has been elected Senior Vice-President , and  Rajiv Mundhra, Director, Simplex Infrastructures Ltd, Vice President.
IETC appoints adhoc executive committee
The Institution of Electronics and Telecommunication Engineers (IETE), New Delhi has appointed an adhoc Executive Committee for its Hyderabad centre. The eight-member committee would be headed by  T.V.S. Rama Murthy who will be the Chairman.
Bombay Swadeshi Stores' director resigns
Kamlesh Gandhi has resigned as Director of the Bombay Swadeshi Stores.
NTPC to provide power to Common Wealth Games
National Thermal Power Corporation (NTPC) Unit 6 of 490 MW of National Capital Thermal Power Project in Dadri had been synchronized with coal on 16 July 2010. This was the second unit planned to provide power to Common Wealth Games to be organised in Delhi in October 2010.
SBEC Sugar appoints directors
SBEC Sugar has appointed Jayesh Modi as Additional Director and Santosh Chand Gupta as whole-time Director (Works) of the company.
Shah is Company Secy Bank of Baroda
Vinay A. Shah has taken over charge as Company Secretary and Compliance Officer of  Bank of Baroda.
Balyan resigns as Director, MRPL
Dr. A. K. Balyan Director has resigned from the Board of Mangalore Refineries and Petrochemicals Ltd (MRPL) consequent upon his appointment as MD & CEO of Petronet LNG Ltd., New Delhi.

 

Aaj Ki Aawaz
Diggy must realize there was a time to win Naxal hearts!!
But then Diggy and PC are playing their parts!!
 
PC’s adopting the stick line and Diggy is dangling the carrot or gaajar!!
Nowadays wherever you see a fire light up Diggy is haajar (present)!!

Congress has found this ‘pat and slap’ modus operandi handy!!
Feeling is that via this modus operandi Congress comes out looking dandy!!
 
Extra care has to be taken to contain damage of the collateral kind!!!
And for this all those responsible need to apply apna apna mind!!
 
As the gap between rich and poor widens Naxalism will gain ground!!
Naxal propaganda is that the poor the rich do hound!!!
 
Despite Quereshi’s barbs India is still seen trying to show all is honky dory!!
Reality is it’s a totally different story!!
 
The Uncle Sam that Mohna admires gave the terrorists tit for tat!!
But here sadly on account of votes Congress for them comes out to bat!!
 
Diggy is mobilized to show that Congress is with the majority minority!!
So in attempts to quell terror Diggy points out to some deformity!!
 
Like the Batla house encounter!!
Diggy has already opened  on this issue his ‘please majority minority’ counter!!!
 
After all the damage he’s done you have Mohna and Sonia pledging for Omar support!!
That is after Omar submitted to them his ‘one sided’ report!!
 
He’s still not answered that as problems started why did he not return from his holiday!!
On not returning to the Valley immediately what does he have to say???
 
And for his belated return he took a detour!!
At such a time should he have continued with his ‘hilly tour’???
 
Pawar is now planning to dent Congress’s prospects in Bihar !!
Aim is to work on the Muslim vote bank to ensure Congress’s haar!!
 
Laloo and Paswan of course will gain!!!
Though in Bihar NCP will not get any direct gain!!
 
Tariq Anwar is from Bihar but has little clout!!
And even this little clout many will doubt!!
 
Confucius says….dushman ka dushman is dost!!
And to this Pawar, Laloo and Paswan raise a toast!! 

Bharat Kumar

FORUM
(The views expressed in this column are of the contributors. We do not owe any responsibility, whatsoever, of the views of our surfers as they are their personal opinion. However, we would also request our contributors not to be personal, directly or indirectly, in presenting their views. Instead of countering the views which ‘X’ has already expressed, our contributors are advised to present their own views. Also be brief, say about 200 words at the most since any views longer than that if eliminated at our end would carry the risk of the contrbutor’s item losing its original essence)

Biggest Honour Killing
Do you know which one is the biggest honour killing in the World in recent times?.Of course Princess Diana and Dodi.I was told informally this thing by one lady officer of Scotland Yard who was my team member in Kosova as CIVPOL.
 MNT
 
Comparison is unjustified
 
The comparison between civilian officers and Armed forces officers is unjustified, unnecessary and wastage of resources. There is no relationship between cow and buffalo. Both give milk, both belong to female category, both are necessary for society and both are respected and worshiped in the country. Only democracy gives an opportunity to its citizens to indulge in such luxury to discuss such subject with utter disregard for the sentiments of other.
It is better for the retired  or yet to retire civil and armed  both officers to, instead concentrate on major problems our country is facing . Use your knowledge and experience of working in the government and suggest how country should solve problems like illiteracy, malnutrition, flooding of populated areas, naxalites, ill-treatment to women in civil society, poor care of old and infirm, criminalisation of politics, impact of corruption on common man, poor status of health services, spread of black money, protection of criminals by high and mighty, third class infrastructure in the country, need for national integration of those alienated from society, poor condition of teachers, contamination of drinking water sources, interlinking of rivers, countering China and handling Pakis, how to proceed with getting seat in security council, road map to super power, how to organise Olympics, institutional arrangement to finance general election etc etc. The list could be endless.
There is no use cursing and criticising others. What do you think about current problems your country is facing? Do you have time?
 
Dr K C Rathore 
 
Debate has become vitriolic
 
The debate on Civilian officers vs Army officers has become rather vitriolic. The piece today was particularly in a very bad taste. The Forum should not add oil to the fire by letting this kind of mudslinging and comparison continue. Let your site not become an outlet for personal grudges and frustrations. It is a great site otherwise.
 
Aarti Khosla
 
Army vs civil services
 
Two different sets of people one wielding pen and other wielding sword. How can you compare them? Pen can't take sword's place. pen wielding people can't hold sword but sword holding hands can hold pen as well. When sword defends the country it is only then pen works. Hence comparison!  Both parties would do well to have mutual respect/regard and not hatred for other.
 
PKS
 
No use carrying Army Vs Civil Service controversy
 
I would like one thing to be known. The word "Saab" as derided by a gentleman, is extensively used in the Armed Forces. All officers are called Saab including a General by other ranks. All officers including the COAS address the junior Commissioned officers (that is naib Subedar onwards) as  "Saab" or "Saheb" with respect. Officers do not call each others as Saab. NCOs are respectfully addressed as "Ustad" or "Guruju" etc being basic instructors. That is the respectful and elegant egalitarian traditions and etho of the Armed Forces.
And thanks for the small mercies of living under Army Rule ! Only chosen few deserve that.
 
Kutty G M
 
 
Thank God ! We are not under Army Rule.
 
It was really very interesting to read the views on civil services and armed forces. Well I wish one could become Addl. Secty. after 16 years in the Civil Service. There is no point in reacting to something borne out of ignorance. Suffice to say that if one does  the job he/ she is required and expected to do there would be no time nor inclination to start comparing two distinct and different categories. One has nothing against the Armed forces as such but the champions of their so called 'Cause' are far removed from the reality. Ask a civilian living in a Cantonment. Thank God ! We are not under Army Rule.
 
RP Singh
Problem is of recognition in the society 
 
Comparison between civil and defense officers have been going on in this forum for quite sometime. I am a state civil service officer. I have been posted in many places where cantonments have been there. No doubt, as compared to other organised services, our army is more professional, disciplined, apolitical. We should also respect them and give them their due always. But after interacting with them for years, I have felt that the main problem is of recognition in the society, their say in day to day functioning of the government/district.   But this is not due to civilian officers, it is the nature of the job, tasks,  responsibilities and power given to civilian officers that they are more recognized in society. Whether they abuse that power, is a separate matter. Every system runs on checks and balances ( presumably right now except judiciary and media). If this system fails, then things will be chaotic. Even IAS, IPS have immense system of checks and balances. Some of them circumvent them is a separate issue but they happen in armed forces also...except that outside people/media is not aware of it. yes, this is true that many reforms are needed in bureaucracy today and it might be deteriorating but so is every institution including armed forces and political class. One armed forces officer wrote that Indian people hate Indian police utmost. That might be true but also remember that enforcement is a dirty job and wherever army has to do police job ( J&K, NE), they are also hated the same way. Civil servants are judged by their failures but armed forces rightly, by their achievements. Everybody needs a bashing boy for ills of this country and what best then civil servants working in fields. Agreed, that black sheep are there ,so they are there in armed forces also. Agreed, armed forces hands over instant punishment to them while in civil services it lingers but one, it is systemic defect which has to be corrected and second, only a fraction of the corruption in armed forces comes out in open ( Ask any BSF officer or in ASC). Both the armed forces and civil servants are doing jobs in their spheres, and both are extremely important. But ultimately the government in day to day functioning does not depend on army rather civil servants, who are trained for it. During times of crises, army help is asked and they are also trained for it. Where does the question of convergence arise. Comparing the system of governance of India, with that of Pakistan or Burma or North Korea will not help. But lets find way of strengthening our own system of governance where different arms of government supplement each other..
R K Singh
 
Double standard
 
Many IPS officers have been given central govt deputation not only in CBI/BSF/ITBP/SSB etc. but even as AS/JS/DIR/CVO's in Ministries and PSU's. There are other central services like Railways, P&T etc who are deprived of promotions in time and generally not being considered for deputation as well.Policy of deputation and the HR Development seem no concern to DOPT and PMO. This is purely a double standard.
 
N S Patiyal
 
Hard facts about Army
 
It is only because of shield of secrecy that these facts are not coming out. Army is afflicted with all ailments that plague the civilian bureaucracy. Another point is that this is the only institution which claims that duties performed by them (although they are decently paid for the same) are a favour to the country and every one residing in it. They have scant respect for any other professional. It would be worth mentioning that many more people (other than army) are also performing their duties diligently without ever claiming that they are doing a favour to the country or its citizens. There are policemen, doctors, engineers, teachers, skilled and unskilled workers, peasants who are toiling day in and day out. These people are also making their contribution to sustenance and building of nation. But they are never projecting it as a favour to the country. The Army officers have a grouse that they are being shortchanged by the IAS. Fact of the matter is that anybody who has got authority tries to dominate. In this respect Military Officers are more ruthless in damaging civilian counterparts when it comes to certain mixed organizations where the former are holding leadership positions. Some examples are Border Roads Organization, Military Engineering Service etc. In these organizations, the Military leadership has done anything and everything to deny the civilians (despite being extremely qualified and experienced) their due share in career prospects and due role in the running of the organizations. An old adage "Jiski Laathi Uski Bhains" holds true in this case.
 
Samalochak
 
Chaos (civil/military) is always chaos!
 
There is too much of civil/military thrashing/trashing on the forum for more time than it deserved. It is time to give it a civilized burial with full military honours. As I am personally aware of both the SSB and the UPSC, I would suggest the foregoing course. Still if some learned surfers think that the debate must go on, they must consider the following: Pakistan has military rule(presently thinly veiled in limited democracy--just like various maketing offers promising gold or Merc cars as rewards in bold letters followed by T & C applies written in fine print). Are right thinking people happy with it? Were the answer Yes, Pakistan would not have earned the name & fame of a terror sponsoring state! So, here too the aam aadmi is the loser(no governance and no well being of the aam aadmi). As against it, India has the civilian rule. What is the net result? Anything I say now would be repetition of surfer comments on WIC so far. These are no ordinary surfers and Whispersinthecorridors is no ordinary website. The surfers have hands on experience of governance and civilian/military practices. They are valuable feedback for the government and also implementers of the governmentt programmes. If they have been driven to frustration of such high magnitude, there is decidedly something festering somewhere. The malady calls for diagnosis. Elsewhere in the region, countries have willingly or inadvertently become satellites of super powers or military juntas. There may be several contributory factors for failure of both democratic and military regimes, but one reason is no previous experience of either democracy or military rule. Basically, both India and Pakistan represent small feudal lords, who held sway upto 1947. The mindset has not changed. The civil authorities in India violate all norms of governance under the Rule Of Law constitutional fiction. So is the case with military regimes in the region, who feel threatened at any move for peace talks between the two countries. Judging from this wider perspective, limitations of both civil and military officers would become crystal clear. One can not contribute to good governance without the contribution & constructive cooperation from the other. My conclusion is that individually both are imperfect. Both need sobering restraint of each other. Both need to actively contribute to policy formulation. If that is done in mutual respect to each other, peace talks etc would yield better resulta. The civil and military brass & boss must shed their attitudes, which have been noticed several times and had to be tamed sometimes.
 
M L Gupta
 
Factiousness
 
Sixth Pay Commission has introduced "Factiousness" as never before.
 
Factiousness is an important but often ambiguous variable of health of Bureaucratic Structure in the country. As proponents of checks and balances note, government that allows factiousness in its Bureaucracy can protect the rights and interests of minority Services by preventing a large majority from coalescing and dominating a polity. Largest of them are Armed Forces followed by Police Cadres (in terms of numbers and consequently the expenditure). One measure the balancing  this Chanakaya  genius is its tendency to enable factions to cancel each other out like IPS have been able to emerge far better than Defence Service officers not by moving up but by pushing them down. On the other hand, a Bureaucratic Structure  constantly embroiled in factional disputes will find it difficult to make and execute major strategic decisions or to satisfy the aspirations and values even of a majority within the structure. In this regard, the Sixth CPC has been an overkill as the Minority Group, the IAS, have usurped advantages out of proportion, thereby, totally unbalancing the overall structure.
 
The deliberate fiasco of Lt Col pay, treacherously pushing Defence Officer down the pay scales by not acknowledging the previous Rank Pay and keeping them unrepresented, has dented their self respect and comparative status equation which are vital ingredients of their professional requirements and psychology. Since they are a Service which does not effect Civil Functioning and equations very much, that could have been avoided. such an action was unwarranted and not well considered.
 
 Secondly, pushing all other Cat A and All India Services down by two years seniority does not auger well for inter Services synergy.
This factiousness is larger than necessary for the health of the Bureaucratic Structure. Since IAS are the largest beneficiary of the new dispensation, it is futile to expect the Cab Secy to bring in the required balance.  That mechanism having failed, I am afraid, either the Political Leaders should intervene or other instrumentalities of Politics (such as non cooperation, differentiation, hostility, conflicts, groupism, turf protection, trust deficiet etc) will lead to dismemberment or rendering useless the Structure itself.
 
The largest casualty has been the trust earlier that the IAS will take balanced decision. Now no one will trust them. That is not good for the health of the Country. I hope those who matter take it seriously.
 
Rammana
 
Rajeev was a sensitive PM
 
No dout he was the only prime minister who was not thinking of killers and due the fact he was killed by them. Rajeev was really sensitive to problems of poor Indians and he was the first PM who realised how Corruption is eating the 90% money allocated for development of India and poor of India. He was the first Indian PM who realized the need of computer and honestly promoted policies due to which today India became the main supplier of IT professional to the whole world.
 
Man Singh
 
All about Army  
 
1. Army officers do, in fact, fight for the country. Where is the argument about that? So do police officers, and CPO officers. A colonel and a major were killed in Kashmir, within the last two weeks. They are, in fact putting their lives on the line. That is the difference between Army, Police, and Paramilitary services on the one hand, and desk based bureaucratic services on the other. The element of risk to life exists for one, and does not exist for the other. They are putting their lives on the line, so that you can all sit easy in your offices, and call them names, and deny them pensions, and promotions, and equivalency with file notings after file notings, and court cases galore.
 
2. Army scales of pay have historically been the same as those of the ICS, and later, the IAS. So why in the world should the Army not compare its salary structure to the salaries it has always been paid? What attack of illogic would cause them to start comparing with other services all of a sudden? Would anyone ask the IAS to start comparing their salaries with AFHQCS suddenly?
 
3. As to the abstruse expostulations we have seen about difference in entrance exams and so forth, they are an exercise in nonsensical sophistry. An exam is simply an entry point. The real question is what you do in your career thereafter. Lets expand on this line of (non sequitur) argument, that civil service exams are tougher, so the employee should be paid more. How ridiculous is that? Next, engineering services officers will say they should have higher and better posts than the IAS, because engineering is a difficult field, with a longer training period, while anyone with a three year BA honours in Philosophy can become an IAS officer! Medical service officers will say that they should be the cabinet secretary because it is difficult to become a doctor! The nonsense will never end.
 
4. The vast majority of the nation is proud of its army. If anyone wants to make the case that its not, im afraid he is in a minority. Perhaps they think that citing cases like the Manorama Devi case will help them win supporters (this sad case was made out against the Assam Rifles, a Central Paramilitary Force under the MHA, not against the army. AR is indeed headed by an army officer, but it also has its own officer cadre, just like BSF, ITBP, etc. But that is splitting hairs anyway). The fact is, unfortunate incidents happen everywhere, but then people are punished severely in the army for them. That is the difference. Accountability. Unlike other services where there are cases where even persons accused of molestation and abetment to suicide are given medals, and promoted.
 
In the end, no amount of whining by disgruntled persons changes the fact that the army is necessary, even a sine qua non, for the survival of this country in the tough neighborhood in which we live. So we may as well not demoralise them, and pull them down. Right?
 
-Aditya 
 
Roles In Commonwealth Games
 
It is high time that the country should know the roles of different stake holders in the delivery of the IXX Commonwealth Games to be held in October 2010. The conduct of the Games is squarely the responsibility of the Organising Committee headed by Suresh Kalmadi, City infrastructure is by Government of NCT of Delhi under Smt. Sheila Dixit, Security is with Delhi Police under LG Delhi and the Sports Infrastructure is under Dr. Manohar Singh Gill Sports Minister. There are 17 total sports venue for the Games . Out of these 11 venues are being built under Ministry of Youth Affairs & Sports (9 with SAI, One with AITA, one with Delhi University)One is with Delhi Government, One with NDMC and four with DDA. The venues completed so far have been judged as the best in the world at given cost. CPWD under UD Minister has done a wonderful job to create these world class venues. No one should have the slightest doubt that games will not be delivered in the best way because of venues. I suggest before posting comments on this website readers should get the factual information correctly may be by asking questions through the medium of this website. 
 
H S Kingra