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POLITICS

SP and BSP parted ways?
SP and BSP did not take part in UPA celebrations on Wednesday. Does this mean they have parted ways unofficially?

BUREAUCRACY

Secretary, Defence (1) Orders of Mathur issued but?
As predicted Orders of R K Mathur were issued on Thursday. But not for the post of Secretary, Defence. The 1977 batch Manipur-Tripura cadre IAS officer R K Mathur who is presently Secretary, Defence Production has been given additional charge of Secretary, Defence for three months.

Secretary, Defence (2) Defence is not important for UPA Government?
Is the Defence in low priority of the UPA Government? Never in the past additional charge of Defence Secretary was given to any other Secretary. What is the compulsion of the Government of not appointing R K Mathur the choice of Antony sahib? Mathur is considered to be an honest and upright IAS officer.

Secretary, Defence (3) Vivek Rae
Is Secretary, Petroleum, Vivek Rae is still in for the post of Secretary, Defence. One can only wait and watch. The 1978 batch UT cadre IAS officer Vivek Rae has already held meeting with Defence Minister A K Antony.

Secretary, Defence (4) P K Mishra
Meeting between Cabinet Secretary Ajit Seth and Secretary, DoPT, P K Mishra with Defence Minister A K Antony on Wednesday has fuelled speculations about Mishra's appointment as Secretary, Defence. The 1976 batch IAS officer Mishra who is scheduled to retire on June 30 has a long experience in the Defence Ministry. Insiders, however, maintain that Mishra will become Member of the UPSC.

Secretary, Defence (5) Ratan Watal
Meeting of R P Watal with the Defence Minister A K Antony has also been discussed in the Defence Ministry. The 1978 batch IAS officer of Andhra Pradesh cadre Watal is presently Secretary, Non-Renewable Energy.

Secretary, Defence (6) O P Rawat
In the Defence Ministry name of Secretary, PSE , O P Rawat was also heard for the post of Secretary, Defence. The 1977 batch IAS officer of Madhya Pradesh cadre Rawat has served the Ministry in different capacities .His honesty was not liked by the Arms Suppliers and an attempt was also made to kill him.

Secretary, Defence (7) Sudhir Mittal
Name of Sudhir Mittal is also prominently being discussed in the corridors of power for the post. He is a 1978 batch IAS officer of Punjab cadre.

Vishwanath is new CMD of FCI
C Vishwanath has been appointed new CMD of the Food Corporation of India (FCI). He is a 1981 batch IAS officer of Andhra Pradesh cadre.
(We said this on May 17, 2013)

Delhi HC's historic judgement in the unique case of 1977 batch IAS officer (UPDATED)
Delhi High Court in its judgement, in Rakesh Behari's case, has directed the Government of India as follows;"We direct the respondents to issue fresh orders empanelling the petitioner for appointment as Secretary to the Govt. of India with effect from June 2010. I.e. that is; when officers of the 1977 batch were empanelled for postings as Secretary GoI". Rakesh Behari is 1977 batch IAS officer, presently serving as Chairman, Delhi State Industrial Development Corporation. He is empanelled as Secy. GoI, in 2012 whereas the court has ordered GoI to empanell Behari w.e.f. year 2010.

49 IAS officers of 1994 batch empanelled as Joint Secretary in GoI
As many as 49 officers of Indian Administrative Service (IAS) belonging to 1994 batch and various cadres have been empanelled as Joint Secretaries in Government of India. The officers include: Dr Sharat Chauhan and Sanjeev Khirwar of AGMU cadre while Sanjay Lohiya, Samir Kumar Sinha, A P Das Doshi and Niraj Verma of Assam-Meghalaya cadre and Praveen Prakash of Andhra Pradesh cadre. Similarly, Atish Chandra of Bihar cadere; Ms Richa Sharma, Ms Nidhi Chiber, Vikas Sheel, Manoj Kumar Pingua, Ganesh Shanker Mishra of Chhattisgarh; Anurag Agarwal of Haryana; Ms Anuradha Thakur, Onkar Chand Sharma of Himachal Pradesh; Navin Kumar Choudhary of Jammu and Kashmir; Arvind Shirvastava, Anjum Parwez of Karnataka; Rajesh Kumar Sinha, Sanjay Garg and A Ajith Kumar of Kerala cadre; Ms Pallavi Jain , Ms Rashmi Arun Shami, Hari Ranjan Rao, Sheo Shekhar Shukla, Ms Dipali Rastogi, Manish Rastogi, J N Malpani of Madhya Pradesh cadre; Vikas Shankar Kharage, Ms Vennecaganti Radha, B V Gopala Reddy, Santosh Kumar, Dr V N More of Maharashtra; Rajesh Agarwal of Manipur-Tripura cadre; Piyus Goyal of Nagaland; Ms Ranjana Chopra, Ms Aparajita Sarangi and G Mathi Vathanan of Orissa cadre; Tejveer Singh, Vikas Pratap, Dhirendra Kumar Tiwari of Punjab; Kuldeep Ranka, Naresh Pal Gangwar of Rajasthan cadre; K Sreenivasulu of Sikkim cadre; Atul Anand and Sudeep Jain of Tamil Nadu cadre; Partha Sarthi Sensharma of Uttar Pradesh cadre and Ms Nandini Chakravorty of West Bengal cadre.

Will Justice Aftab Alam be Chairman of TDSAT ?
Name of outgoing Judge of the Supreme Court of India Justice Aftab Alam has started doing the round for the post of Chairman, Telecom Disputes Settlement & Appellate Tribunal (TDSAT).

B K Panda selected as Director (Personnel), BCCL
B K Panda, GM, MCL/CIL, has been selected for the post of Director (Personnel), Bharat Coking Coal Limited (BCCL) at a Public Enterprises Selection Board (PESB) meeting held on May 23, 2013. As many as 13 persons were interviewed for the same.

Goyal is Additional DC, Handicrafts
Navraj Goyal has been appointed as Additional Development Commissioner (DC), Handicraft). He is a 2002 batch IRS (C &CE) officer.

Post of DG, National Archives of India lies vacant
After the term of Prof. Mushirul Hasan as DG, NAI came to end in the mid of May, the coveted slot lies vacant. Reportedly, DOPT had recommended two-year extension to Prof. Mushirul probably it failed get the sanction of Union Minister for Culture. India's acclaimed historian and the recipient of Padmashri Award Prof. Hasan is the former Vice-Chancellor of Jamia Millia Islamia University.

GoI invites application for DG, NAI; search committee yet to be constituted
After the term of Prof. Mushirul Hasan came to end in the mid of May, the GoI has invited applications for DG, National Archives of India. The search committee is yet to be constituted.

Delhi Public Library soon to get new Director
Sanjiv Kumar is poised to be appointed as the new Director of Delhi Public Library.

Ravi Prakash may get three months extension?
Ravi Prakash, IG, CRPF who is currently on a two months leave, reportedly, may be given an extension till August 11. He completes his 7 years term on central deputation on May 11. Ravi Prakash, a 1990 batch IPS officer of Rajasthan cadre, served as IG (Personnel), CRPF.

One post of SDG in CRPF still vacant
One post of Special Director General in CRPF still lies vacant.

Orders of Sunil Kumar as Director (HR), MTNL yet to come
The orders of Sunil Kumar, ED, TCIL, for the appointment as Director (Human Resources), Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Limited (MTNL) are yet to be issued.

Raveendran to join GoI
As the grapevine has it, S Raveendran is all set to move on central deputation. Raveendran, a 1995 batch IPS officer of Bihar cadre, is serving as DIG, Human Rights.

Ray to be CCIT 1 Delhi?
S K Ray is likely to be appointed Chief Commissioner of Income Tax (CCIT) 1 in Delhi. He is a 1978 batch IRS officer.

Narayanan goes to Dakar
Consul in Vancouvor, R Narayanan has been moved to Dakar.

PESB seeks applications for Director (Fin), ILK
Public Enterprises Selection Board (PESB) has invited applications for the post of Director (Finance), Instrumentation Ltd., Kota (ILK) which has fallen vacant on February 1, 2013. Those willing to apply for the same can send their applications to the PESB before June 14, 2013.

Kurian appointed PAG, A&E, Bengaluru
V Kurian, Director General, NAAA, Shimla, has been transferred and posted as Principal Accountant General (A&E), Karnataka, Bengaluru.

Ms Duggal re-designated as Director, DoPT
Ms Amarpreet Duggal has been re-designated as Director in Department of Personnel & Training with effect from July 1, 2013. She is an IPoS officer of 1999 batch.

Tenure of Gautam ends today
The central deputation tenure of SK Gautam, IG (Personnel), Sashastra Seema Bal (SSB), FHQ, New Delhi, is coming to an end on Friday. He is a 1989 batch IPS officer of AGMU cadre.

56 IRS-Income Tax officers transferred (UPDATED)
As many as 56 officers of Indian Revenue Service of Income Tax cadre and working at the grade of Additional and Joint Commissioner levels have been transferred and posted at different places. Accordingly, Sanjay Pandey and CB Singh have been shifted to DGIT (Vig), Delhi while Lal Philips is being transferred to Gujarat and Monika Dhami was shifted to Andhra Pradesh. Similarly, Vijay Babu Vasanta to Andhra Pradesh; Pradeep Kumar Meel to DGIT (System), Delhi and Vidya Ramachandran to DGIT (Vig), Chennai; Tanuj Kumar Neogi to Bihar & Jharkhand; Shubhrata Verma to Gujarat; Anita Rupavtaram to Nagapur CCA; Ranu Biswas to West Bengal; S Venkatramani to Orissa; G S Virk to DGIT (Logistics), Delhi; Raju Lepecha to DGIT (Vig) EZ, Kolkata; S Ramu to Andhra Pradesh; Sudhiranjan Senapati to DGIT (Administration), Delhi; D A J Sawkmie to North-east region; Jawwad Ahmed Khan to UP West; Tarun Seem to Delhi; J K Mishra to Kerala; Anuj Arora to CBDT, Delhi; K S Rajendra Kumar to DGIT (IT & TP), Hyderabad; Rajgopal Sharma to DGIT (Vig NZ), Delhi; Ram Mohan Singh to DGIT (Logistics), Delhi; Munish Kumar Gupta to CBDT, Delhi; Archan Sharma Awasthi to DGIT (Vig), Delhi; Raman Kant Garg to North-east region; Ravi Ramchanran K to CBDT, Delhi; David Zothanpuia Chawngthu to West Bengal; Md Tarique Kalim to Delhi; Sandeep Bandhu to Delhi; B Rajaram to Andhra Pradesh; Chandrajit Singh to ITSC, Mumbai; Garima Bhagat to DGIT (IT & TP), Delhi; Kolakaluri Ravi Kiran to DGIT (IT & TP), Mumbai; D Prabhakar Reddy to Mumbai; Rashmita Jha to ITSC, Delhi; Pankaj Jindal to DGIT (IT & TP), Delhi; Surendra Pal to DGIT (System), Delhi; Chittranjan Dash to Delhi; Meera Srivastava to Karnataka & Goa; Shashi Bhushan to DGIT (IT & TP), Noida; Naina Soin Kapil to DGIT (HRD), Delhi; Srujani Mohanty to DGIT (Vig), Delhi; Anil Kumar Chawre to DGIT (IT & TP), Pune; Vijay Kumar Chadha to DGIT (I & CI), Sunil Gautam to DGIT (System), Delhi; Rajnish Dev Burman to West Bengal; Satpal Singh to UP East; D Shyam Sudha to Kerala to Tajinder Pal Singh to UP east; Rita Kumar Dhokania to Gujarat and Prem Chandra Maury has been shfited to Jharkhand.

27 Deputy/Joint Commissioners of IT shifted (UPDATED)
As many as 27 officers of Indian Revenue Service of Income Tax cadre working at the levels of Deputy and Assistant Commissioner have been transferred and posted at different places. Accordingly, Salunke Sandip Kumar Ratan has been shifted to NADT Nagpur DGIT, Training while Rishpal Bedi was shifted to Delhi CCA and Arun Kumar Yadav is being shifted to Directorate of Systems, Delhi. Similarly, V Nanda Kumar has been shifted to Chennai CCA; Shiv Swaroop Singh to Directorate of Systems, Delhi; Bedobani Choudhari to Banglare CCA; Sudhanshu Dhar Mishra to Lucknow CCA; Yogendra Mittal to Chennai CCA; M Anitha to Lucknow CCA; R S Arvindhakshan to NADT Nagpur DGIT Training; Amit Ashok Rao Bobde to NADT Nagpur DGIT Training; Dhoke Ajay Gopal Rao to Nagpur CCA; Mohit Mrinal to Kolkata CCA; Kranti to Mumbai CCA; Vikas Singh to Directorate of Systems, Delhi; Ashim Kumar Chakraborty to Kolkata CCA; Pranab Kumar Koley to Kolkata CCA; S T Sheshadhri to Directorate of Vigilance, Delhi; Harmkamal Sohi Sandhu to Mumbai CCA; Pinki Mahawar to Lucknow CCA; Sri Shanmuga Priya M to Ahmedabad CCA Gujarat; Pushpendra Kumar to Kanpur CCA; Kanv Bali to Directorate of International Taxation and Transfer Pricing, Delhi; Manveet Singh Sehgal to Chandigarh CCA; C S Pojge to Nagpur CCA and Harish Bist has been shifted to Mumbai CCA.

Dr Bhandari is Secretary, Sainik Welfare in Himachal Pradesh (UPDATED)
Dr Ajai Bhandari has been appointed as Secretary, Sainik Welfare in Himachal Pradesh. He is a 1990 batch IAS officer.

Two IFS officers shifted in Himachal Pradesh (UPDATED)
Two officers of Indian Forest Service (IFS) have been given new postings in Himachal Pradesh. Accordingly, Sushil Srivastava (1979) has been appointed as Managing Director, HP State Industrial Development Corporation, Shimla while J S Walia (1979) will now be Managing Director, Himachal Pradesh Financial Corporation, Shimla.

IRS-IT officer quits service (UPDATED)
Indian Revenue Service officer of Income Tax cadre, Kuntal Kumar Sen presently DIT (IT)-II, Mumbai, has quit the service.

Cabinet approved restructuring of Income Tax Department (UPDATED)
Cabinet has approved restructuring of Income Tax Department by creating 20,751 additional posts,which includes 1349 additional posts in the IRS cadre and 19,402 additional posts in the non-IRS cadres. Government will incur additional expenditure of Rs. 450 crore per annum.

Five IFS officers promoted as PCCF in Kerala (UPDATED)
As many as five officers of Indian Forest Service (IFS) have been promoted to the grad of Principal Chief Conservator of Forests (PCCF) in Kerala. The officers include: Chandra (1980), S C Joshi (1980), Lakhwinder Singh (1980) , A K Goyal (1981) and K P Joseph (1981).

Surendra Kumar is APCCF, Protection in Kerala (UPDATED)
Surendra Kumar has been appointed as Additional Principal Chief Conservator of Forests (APCCF), Protection in Kerala. He is a 1986 batch IFS officer.

R K Mathur to be Secretary Defence in GoI (UPDATED)
R K Mathur, Secretary, Defence Production, has been appointed as Secretary, Defence in Government of India. He is a 1977 batch IAS officer of Manipur-Tripura cadre.

11 IAS officers transferred in MP (UPDATED)
As many as 11 officers of Indian Administrative Service (IAS) have been transferred and posted at different places in Madhya Pradesh. Accordingly, S N Mishra (1990) has been appointed as Secretary, Urban Administration and Development while Shobhit Jain (2000) will now be Additional Secretary, Finance and Akhilesh Kumar Shrivastava (2001)is Additional Commissioner, Revenue, Gwalior and Chambal division. Similarly, Rajnish Kumar Shrivastava (2002) has been appointed as Collector, Harda; Nishan Varwade (2003) as Collector, Bhopal; Raghuraj M R (2004) as Collector, Dindori; Sudam Pandrinath Khande (2006) as Collector, Tikamgarh; Nagargoje Madan Vibhishan (2007) as Additional Commissioner, Land Record and Management, Gwalior; Sibi Chakravorty M (2008) as Collector, Bhind; Tarun Kumar Pithode (2009) as Additional MD, Madhya Pradesh Urjaa Vikas Nigam and Amit Tomar (2009) has been posted as CEO, Zilla Panchayat and ex-officio Collector (Development), Khandwa.

CORPORATE

Menon to head Airtel operations in MP and AP
Ramesh Menon has been appointed Chief Executive Officer of the Airtel's operations in Andhra Pradesh and Madhya Pradesh. He succeeds Sharlin Thayil who has been moved to Gurgaon office.

Marwaha resigns as CFO, Fulford India Ltd
Rajesh Marwaha has resigned as Chief Financial Officer (CFO) of Fulford India Ltd.

Bhogilal re-appointed ED & CFO, Datamatics Global Services Ltd
Datamatics Global Services Limited has re-appointed Vidur V Bhogilal as an Executive Director and Chief Financial Officer for further period of five years.

Chakrabortti appointed Addl. Director, Asian Hotels (East) Ltd
Asian Hotels (East) Limited has appointed A C Chakrabortti, as an Additional Director of the company.

Narayanamurthy appointed Nominee Director, Rain Commodities Ltd
IDBI Bank Limited has appointed V Narayanamurthy as Nominee Director on the Board of Directors of Rain Commodities Ltd.

Tripathy ceases to be Director, Gujarat Narmada Valley Fertilizers Ltd
R K Tripathy, IAS has ceased to be Director of Gujarat Narmada Valley Fertilizers Ltd.

Hussein appointed Independent Director, Everonn Education Ltd
Everonn Education Limited has appointed Lakdawala Turab Mohd Hussein as Independent Non-Executive Director.

Maher re-appointed Director (Operations), Narendra Properties Ltd
Narendra Properties Ltd has re-appointment Chirag N Maher as Director (Operations) of the company w.e.f August 1, 2013.

Gupta resigns as MD, USG Tech Solutions Ltd
Prem Gupta has resigned as Managing Director of USG Tech Solutions Ltd.

Modi to continue as Chairman, Modipon Ltd
Dr M K Modi who was holding the position of both Chairman and Managing Director of Modipon Ltd has relinquished the post of Managing Director and will continue as Chairman of the Company.

Oka appointed Nominee Director, JSW Steel Ltd
Hiromu Oka has been appointed as the Nominee Director of JFE Steel Corporation, Japan on the Board of Directors of JSW Steel Ltd.

Jain appointed Addl. Director, Petron Engineering Ltd
Petron Engineering Construction Ltd has appointed Sanjay Jain as Additional Director of the Company.

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Faasle…

Ik roz uske ghar ka pata dhoondne nikla,
Ik roz apne baam-o-dar(terrace) ko bhoolne nikla,
Faasle meelon ke thay, nazdeek manzilon ke darmiyaan,
Shiddat-e-firaaq(relentless longing) hamein na jaane le aayi hai kahan?

Manoos(familiar) hain chauraahe, pata lagta hai kuch purana sa,
Badle badle se chehre, par lagta hai beeta zamaana sa.
Aarzoo liye bad-hawaas(irregular) qadam hain talaash mein,
Shab-o-sehr sozaan(burning), khasta-haal libaas mein.

Uske shehr ki galiyan dikhti hain be-tarteeb(haywire) si,
Us boorhe peepal ki shaakhein bhi lagti hain ajeeb si,
Rabt(relation) baqi ho na ho, le ke chala soz-e-jigar(heart-wrenching pain),
Dar-ba-dar(everywhere) aazmaishein(challenges), manzil phir bhi lage qareeb si.

Khaali aangan zaroor roya hoga mere bin,
Khilwaton(solitude) mein bhala kaise raha hoga mere bin,
Dhoop ki baareek lakeerein uske chehre pe,
Mano barson moti piroya hoga, mere bin.

Bekas-o-bebas hun main, khush hai wo bazaahir(apparently),
Maazi(past) ki bebaak(ceaseless) kilkariyon mein dilsoz(heart-wrenching) khamoshi yahan,
Ghaur se dekho, dar-o-deewar pe likhi hai ibaarat(writing) koi,
Zabt(control) to dekho, purnam(moist) aankhon ne chhalakna nahi seekha.

Mili jo nazrein, kaee guzray huay zamaane sitam bikhere,
Chashm-e-namnaak(moist eyes) mein pas-e-aaeena koi gham sametay,
Uski muskurahat mein halki si larzish(trembling) thi kahin,
Mano dasht(woods) mein ho hirnon ko dehshat si taari.

Yak-ba-yak(suddenly) chaukhat pe nanha sa ik parinda,
Ammi-ammi kehta hua gale se lag gaya,
Ik baar phir nazron ne mulaquat ki, alvida kaha,
Ik baar phir tera shehr mujhko begaana laga….

Zuhair bin Saghir, IAS
DM Agra
20.05.13

Plan to lower retirement age ?

Is there a plan to lower the retirement age to help accommodate the rising unrest due to unemployment. This would also pump prime the economy, as a sort of quantitative easing, to overcome the slow growth phase.

Anil

Best naukri in GoI

PPS & Sr. PPS/PSO are the best naukri to work. Reason being, no dictation, as Secretary or any other senior officer would not like to burden them with dictation. Only attending telephone, fixing appointments, transport facilities, reimbursement of telephone bill, newspapers, etc, They prefer to call themselves as US or DS or Director without exposing their efficiency by way of taking sensitive long dictation. For this purpose, they target ignorant PAs who are exploited for this purpose for an ordinary salary. When it comes to late sitting they want PAs as their bodyguards. Hope DOPT will issue necessary instructions to rectify this. But my feeling is DOPT would prefer to send these persons on ISTM training for nothing and may also consider them sending abroad if possible at the cost of sympathetic PAs.

D Raju

Rai made CAG's post live

Vinod Rai as CAG has been successful in making people aware that such a post exists in Government just as T N Seshan made people aware of the institution Election Commission. But I feel he got a bit carried away by the attention he received specially from the opposition parties and the media and he started finding skeletons and tons of them in whatever the govt. did. Moreover, he appeared to attach no value to crores, may be because he as CAG was overseeing accounts in millions of crores. I am also in agreement with the suggestion that officers with Accounts Administration should be appointed CAG. If not a CA at least someone from the numerous Accounts Services under the Govt.

Puliprath

Elite is Elite, nobody cares for their caste

There is no myth involved in terming Dalits as Shudras of Vedic period. According to Godly version as supported by Hindu Theology, the creation has come from Brahma, his mouth...........legs... and accordingly the four Varnas were created by Lord Brahma, he did not create as such Fifth Varna of Ati-Shudra or to say Dalits. Term Ati-Shudra or to say Dalits is the creation of Brahminical philosophy and not Vedic. Vedas have provision only for four Varnas. But the fact remains that Shudras or Ati-Shudras did not have access to education and to basic human rights as enjoyed by Three Varnas in the form of 'ancestral reservation'. The Old Law Book of Hindus, Manu Smriti and other such holy books totally favour 'ancestral reservation' only to three Varnas. Not only that, the old Hindu law Books have provisions stopping Shudras, later termed as Ati-Shudras, from attaining any kind of knowledge and making it a punishable crime. You cannot compare atrocities of Muslim invaders with those of Varna System and seek sympathy for reservation for General Castes and put ban on Muslims on this ground. This argument has no validity. Why? Because, first of all, Muslims did not start the concept of 'ancestral reservations' nor were they responsible in any way for such a privilege enjoyed by Three Varnas for thousands years in Vedic period. They were not responsible for degradation of Vedic Society and due to Varna System. The reservation policy for SC/STs had nothing to with British regime or Muslim rule, it was a matter within the Hindu communities that is why major signatories to the Poona Pact were Gandhi (representative of higher castes) and Ambedkar (representative of depressed castes). Let me remind you and reiterate that caste Hindus still do have 'ancestral reservations' but now it has come to only "ancestral social reservation" i.e. if you are brahmin by birth and use the title and you get recognition and respect then it is an obvious division in society as used to be in Vedic period. Unless and until, this practice of recognition by birth in a particular caste id done away, it is not possible to say that there is no 'ancestral social reservation' for upper caste Hindus. So far as "man-made reservation" in government jobs is concerned, true, it is for SC/STs whereas one cannot deny general castes enjoy knowingly or unknowingly, Godly 'ancestral social reservation' of being elite by birth. In our society unfortunately elite is not by worth still as is referred to by you, is is by birth. As you time and again refer to "elite among SC/ST" as Vibhakshnas" however, you dont seem to name elite of others in derogatory sense (reasons well known to you)... Kindly tell me the difference between elite between SC/ST and elite among General Castes... Are they from different planets? Do you think elite should have different definition by caste? Thanks for reminding some elite that they are elite among SC/STs and that you recognize them as "Vibhakshans". Generally, it was believed that once you are elite, you are above caste and that all elites are equal by virtue of their standard of living. Term Elite before you used in the above context seemed casteless in itself. But if you strictly believe and justify difference between elite based on caste and describe them "vibhakshans", then would you say elite among general are Raavans because they have not done anything for their castes in which they are born. There is hunger, poverty, hatred by birth among three general castes, and that these elite have not done anything to end it, so would you rate them as Raavans. I leave it upto you. I won't. To me, Elite is Elite, my friend, and that we need to rise above caste when we refer to elite.. Friend, elite irrespective of religion and caste are like an extended family in themselves who will stand by each other unlike commoners. To sum up: Elite is Elite, nobody cares for their caste, nor do they. Reservation Policy for SC/STs give them right to job.' Ancestral Social Reservation practice for General' gives them right to higher status, upper caste by birth. In Vedic Times, 'ancestral reservation policy for general' gave them both job and social high handedness. In comparison, the reservation policy for SC/ST for jobs, stands nowhere to the benefits of 'ancestral social reservation practice'.

R K Singh

Varnas dalits etc

All are getting by natural selection some genetic codes in groups. When epigenetic moulds it, nobody even God cannot stop it. For parochial gains politicians continue secularism and keep caste categorization under the veneer. Genetic differences will remain cannot be made fungible in this millennium. Venkat

Harping back to Vedic times

The apologists for reservations keep harping back to Vedic times i.e. five thousand years back. Most castes in the general category today are actually Shudras, e.g. Kayasthas, Jats etc who are not in the three Varnas. The Shudras were not subjected to untouchability, the "untouchables" were Dalits. The Shudras were caste Hindus and service castes. By and large, the untouchability practiced in India was a result of ignorance and for the purpose of staving off disease. That is why marriage, dining and contact was limited historically to people of the same caste. One must also remember that historical disabilities were not only for Dalits but also for women cutting across caste. For example, Brahmin women fared far worse in traditional India than Dalit women. In India, even among the Dalits, there was a notion of superior caste and inferior caste, e.g. the Chamars thought they were superior to the Jatavs and did not accept food or drink from them. But all these notions are dead and buried. The Constitution makes us all equal and provides equal protection to all. Caste discrimination is banned by law. Then why should reverse discrimination continue forever? Anyway, it was only for ten years. There is a race for backwardness among all castes today all of whom claim to be more backward than the rest in order to partake of the reservation benefits! Even otherwise, why should a reverse caste system be perpetuated forever ? And anyway, the time has come for reservation among SCs and STs to be so defined that children of the creamy layer of third generation IAS officers should not be given the benefit and the children of less lucky and poor, downtrodden Dalits be given the benefits.

Vijay Kumar

Send copy of information to second RTI applicant ?

Common sense and equity demand that the second applicant should not be denied information under RTI. What is the harm if we send a copy of the information to the second applicant?

HG